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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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here is what i have been thinking. Either go all out and buy a short block and build it right once or just put a couple of things on the ls1. The last option is to leave the motor stock and just put a 3200 stall and 3.42 gears with headers. can not seem to make up my mind!!! it is a daily driver and i would love to keep up with the other cars around my area and at the shows with the power and times they run.


Maybe i am just being crazy i know that i should not worry about what power and times the others make. But it does suck being last all the time i do have a 02 auto with subframe connectors, strut tower brace ,bmr 1 inch lower kit, air lid. with a ls1 hot cam kit in the box never put it in and under drive pulley sitting with it

what do you guys think should i compete with the others for good times and power or just keep it stock with stall and gears
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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i think you should just mod your current ls1, dont go buy an aftermarket block and build an engine if its your daily driver. now if you were at the track constantly id say build a motor. your ls1 is plenty for the street, go full bolt-ons ( headers + Full exhaust, lid, gears, stall, ls6 intake, pulley.) then throw in a cam, ported tb, and a tune and you should/will beat most cars... just my .02 i would go with 3.73 gears also being an automatic. plus it'll sound mean with that cam i say stay with stock block and mod
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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^^^ what he said.

i'd say sell the hotcam (or return if you can) and buy a better and/or larger cam.

install the u.d. pulley. purchase/install longtubes, and true duals.

dont skimp on the converter... put atleast a 3500-3800 verter in it.

and get a good tune. the car will rock, even with stock gears/heads.

and if you just need to have the power to get to the head of the pack at the car shows/cruises... then slap on a 150shot.

problem solved. you're welcome.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Do the exhaust first, easiest to do and good hp for the $. Then the cam and ud pully. Don't worry about LS6 intake, you have one if your car is a 2002. Stall with shift kit. and last gears and tune. That will have you beating up on most of the cars around you.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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i didnt even see he had the 02...haha, but ne way, what do you mean being last all the time??!! what kinda cars are in your area?? cobras and vettes?
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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mod with what you have or spend a ton of money now and set it up how you would want it. I have seen people buy motors just to sit as they don't have enought money to get the right rear, tranny and other things that go with it. Drive it and enjoy it.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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well it is both no matter where i go it seems to be at least 4 or 5 cars there that i have no chance aginst. even with the group i go to shows with i am the only one with hardly any mods. everyone else is pushing 11s or 500 hp and those are the mild cars in my area. nothing worse then pulling in a parkinglot and 2 cars pull up next to you and make you think i should have just pull out my bicycle and left the car at home.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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then do full-bolt ons, and put a 150-shot of nitrous and youll be right with em , and if you got the cash, H/C would be a nice idea, then you will be right there with them without the n2o...full bolt ons and H/C, you should be right around...400-440 RWHP, correct me if im wrong, and if you keep the 150 shot, ya know maybe an extra 80-100 at the wheels.... so you should be beating them...
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Do TIRES first, most people in my area get all the HP then dont put it too the ground, so I took the opposite approach hook first, then worry about all the horsepower....if ya spinnin ya aint winnin.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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yea - tires are a necessity.

he said he said he already has the ls1 hotcam in the box... so i say throw it in asap.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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i do have some tires 275 40 17 kumo front and rear if i put the hot cam in do i need different valve springs and tune. this is a daily driver with stop and go traffic my friends say i am wasting my time with the hot cam and need bigger i dont know that much on cams. and is it going to idle with stock converter or should i just wait get some tea 5.3 heads stage 1.5 heads with the hot cam. then get the converter and gears both are stock right now 2.73 gear

This is my main problem. i dont have the knowledge i dont know the heads weak point and the cams strong point. i know you should match them together and this is where i get lost and confused. at first i was just going to just put the hot cam in and cat back syst but wanted heads.

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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haha...
if that was a joke, then good one.

if not.. then we're talking about drag radials!
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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i put between 50 to 60 miles on a day so i dont want to go down that road with drag radials they dont have the mileage
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by discostu
what do you guys think should i compete with the others for good times and power or just keep it stock with stall and gears
If you are questioning whether or not big mods are right for you, here is thread you should read:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=thread

Then ask yourself where you stand.

Major mods all have their ups and downs. It's in your best interests to really decide for yourself prior to doing major mods whether you can live with the potential downsides. For a daily driver, this consideration is even more important.

When my local club was at it's height, I always used to tell my guys not to go nuts modding the car they count on to get back and forth to work everyday. And of course, most of them didn't listen..... and most of them had issues that became a big problem when they found themselves without a mode of transportation.

So in the end, ask yourself: Can I afford a lot of downtime if something goes wrong? If the answer is no, then consider first buying a daily driver before you shoot for 10 second time slips. If the answer is yes, then the only other question you have to ask yourself is, can I live with some of the negative side effects of certain mods? To answer that one, you need to do your best to investigate your planned setup and see what issues others have had that took the same path you're planning now.

Money is also a consderation, daily driver or not. Can you afford what you want to do? And can you afford to fix the stuff that might break when you start racing it?

Modding can be a fun, great, cool experiance if you do it right. Or it can be a major pain in the *** if done wrong. Just make sure you think through what you want, what your budget is, and what your goals/expectations/limitations/tolerations are before you start ordering parts.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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as everyone else said stall/gears/tire/headers/duals or catback/25% underdrive pulley then either a bigger cam and heads or if you want to go cheaper then keep the hotcam, have it installed and add a 100 or 150 shot of n20. Be ready though to spend money on a rear end/engine/tranny if any of them blows up on you...
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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thanks for that post. his experience did make me alittle wiser i do know that i wont be the fastest car. there is always someone faster
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thanks for that post. his experience did make me alittle wiser i do know that i wont be the fastest car. there is always someone faster
It is true that someone will always be faster, but that's only part of the point. The bigger picture is, with major mods there are challenges you may need to face (both financial setbacks and potential loss of driveability), so it's important to be prepared for the possibility of issues.

Read, study, investigate, ask questions (as you currently are), listen/read and FULLY consider the answers of experienced modders, and plan ahead. Foresight and comprehension will be your best friends when it comes to planning a course of mods for your car that you can live with, afford, and have a good time while doing.

Good luck, and have fun.
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Be A Man And Mod The ******!!!!!
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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It looks like im about the only LT1 guy posting on this, i had the same problem with people walking me right and left in their LS1's and Cobra's so mine went and got head work, cam, long tubes, true duals, injectors, throttle body, and some gears, now i have **** tires a blown tranny..lol... but while i was running no one touched me even when i didn't have traction lol... i say just build what you got, when or if you blow it, thats when you go bigger and badder...
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BsGreenZ
It looks like im about the only LT1 guy posting on this, i had the same problem with people walking me right and left in their LS1's and Cobra's so mine went and got head work, cam, long tubes, true duals, injectors, throttle body, and some gears, now i have **** tires a blown tranny..lol... but while i was running no one touched me even when i didn't have traction lol... i say just build what you got, when or if you blow it, thats when you go bigger and badder...
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