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Old 03-30-2007, 07:38 PM
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I am going to get my dyno done the first chance I get, but for now any Ideas of cars I should be worried about at a stop light. I got into a stop light to stop light race today with mustang gt vert ( the model before the new one). I have a problem that no matter how hard I try first gear will not catch traction ( keep in mind my last ta was a 94 a4 and I have been trying to get used to hole shots in the M6 as much as possible). He hung with in first gear and part of second but after that It almost seemed like he gave up, except the same thing happened at the next light. So I am just currious how many stock cars on the road should I be able to take me out of the hole(ex...mustang gt, charger, ect....) thanks and I am sure there are plenty of post on this but every time I try a search on this site I get blank screen.
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take off a little faster than you normally would at a red light..then once it hooks, slam it...should help a big...just dont tach it up and drop the clutch tryn to get traction, especially in a M6 and your mods
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I will try, I think I just have real shitty tires. Before anyone say the guy in mustang let off, I know for a fact he did not because I asked him before I had to take a left at the third light. I am saving up for the goodyear F1 unless anyone thinks I could use something better.
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so are those gears noisy? I was thinking about some richmond gears. sorry to hijack, mustangs are not compettition in stock form unless its modded or a mach1 or an 03-04 cobra, chargers are the same, unless heavely modded the r/ts and daytonas are an easy kill, the srt8s are a different story though!
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yeah they make some noise between 45 and 60 mph. It took the performance shop 2 week to get them a quiet as they are now(which is prety quiet, not stock, but does not bother my pregnant wife, that says alot). honestly I am going to put down some sound deading on the floor and back of the car to knock out the rest of the noise. But for sound it makes it is a very stong gear You got me pegged.

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Old 03-31-2007, 08:55 AM
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fuzion zRi's are great for decent wear and good traction
try just rollin it out just until you feel the clutch grab completely mash it
works for me
they can have the first five feet of a jump, it just makes their faces even funnier when you run past them like nothing :smoke:
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Its ture watch for the 03 04 cobras.
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Just get some drag radials and drop the tire presure to 13psi and put it in first and rev to 2500 rpm's and dump it! you will jump on his *** so fast that they bust a bitch!!!!
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stock mustang gt's are crap when pitted against an ls1. i've raced a few from the line *and* from a roll - both of which i've smoked 'em, and im copmletely stock - 'cept for a descreened MAF . obviously the '03-'04 cobras and mach1's are the ones to watch out for when lookin at mustangs.

for other cars - i wuld venture to say that those with awd turbos (i.e. eclipse gsx, subara wrx sti, and i *think* lancer evo's) are the ones to watch out for from a stop.

FWIW: when i race from the line, i usually ease into the pedal quickly, rather than stompin on the gas - helps with the major tire spin.
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dude i run 245 50 16s and i love racing evos and wrxs from a dig, i always catch them by the time i hit second and im not some freak running 600 hp either (not yet anyways) pretty much stock u just have to spend a shitload of time practicing ur launches thats what i did
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Originally Posted by THEBRAD
dude i run 245 50 16s and i love racing evos and wrxs from a dig, i always catch them by the time i hit second and im not some freak running 600 hp either (not yet anyways) pretty much stock u just have to spend a shitload of time practicing ur launches thats what i did
thats wut im talkin bout - those awd's, if im not mistaken, are good for out-of-the-hole shots. once they reach about 40 or so, i dont think they really stand a chance against a powerful rwd car.

thats just my uneducated opinion, anyways.
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Originally Posted by fastss
Just get some drag radials and drop the tire presure to 13psi and put it in first and rev to 2500 rpm's and dump it! you will jump on his *** so fast that they bust a bitch!!!!
ya that would be a hell of a launch!! a couple of those on the stock rear and i think you might be pushing it tho!
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Originally Posted by camaroguy_02
stock mustang gt's are crap when pitted against an ls1. i've raced a few from the line *and* from a roll - both of which i've smoked 'em, and im copmletely stock - 'cept for a descreened MAF . obviously the '03-'04 cobras and mach1's are the ones to watch out for when lookin at mustangs.

for other cars - i wuld venture to say that those with awd turbos (i.e. eclipse gsx, subara wrx sti, and i *think* lancer evo's) are the ones to watch out for from a stop.

FWIW: when i race from the line, i usually ease into the pedal quickly, rather than stompin on the gas - helps with the major tire spin.
a 99 up gt with the m5 and a good driver will run right with the ls1.
another thing is if your rear whines after a gear swap somebody messed up.the brand of gear doesnt make a difference in noise,its the mechanic doin the swap.
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
a 99 up gt with the m5 and a good driver will run right with the ls1.
no way man, not a stock one, they just dont have the power, ive driven both there is no comparison. the numerouse mustangs with exhaust and minor mods that i have stomped also thought they could hang till they saw the tail lights!! the LS1 is just in a different catagory then those mustangs now get a 03-04 cobra or mach 1 now it will give a LS1 a run but a stock gt! it dosnt stand a chance i dont care how good the driver is unless he can make the car have more HP he is goin down!! lol but i do agree with you about the gears they shouldnt moan someone fucked up on instalation!!
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
a 99 up gt with the m5 and a good driver will run right with the ls1.
hahahahaha.....no. a 99-2004 GT will not even come close to hanging with an LS1 F-body. i raced a 97 Cobra the other night, 305 HP 4.6L DOHC V8 and stomped it in the ground. now your telling me a 1999 GT with 285 HP SOHC 4.6L V8 will keep up with my LS1?


EDIT: hahahaha silly me, i gave it too much power. after searching the net i found this.

"However, for diehard muscle-car enthusiasts, only the burble of a stout V8 will do. Ford has increased power in the GT as well, bumping horsepower by 35, to 260 at 5,250 rpm, and torque by 10, to 300 ft.-lbs. at 4,000 rpm. Sadly, this still falls short of the Camaro Z28 and Pontiac Firebird Formula/Trans Am twins by 45 ponies and 35 ft-lbs. of twisting force. But, since the Mustang weighs a few hundred pounds less than the GM muscle cars, the power deficit isn't as dramatically noticeable as it was last year. We'd guess that the 'Stang GT is only half a click off the zero-to-60 times of the Z28/Formula/Trans Am, while remaining more docile and easy to drive during normal commuting."

well, i would guess that they are wrong about the GT being "half a click off the 0-60 times of the Z28/Formula/Trans AM..." because GM underrated the F-bodies. insted of the 305 HP that Edmunds expected, its more like 345. which is around 80HP less than the GT.
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Just keep practicing your launches, you'll get a feel for what you need to do.

As far as what you can beat on the atreet, bro, its mostly whos drivin the car, not the car itself.
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Thanks for the help guys I will keep practicing. As far as the gears go I have taken the car two shops and no one has been able to completly get rid of the whine. The last shop almost got rid of it. I do not know enough about gears to do them myself...yet. I might give it try if get ahold of some 4.10
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I test drove a Charger SRT8 and a 300 SRT8 the other day, and I think I was at 100 before everybody else got through the light. HAHA. Watch out for those guys. FOR SURE.
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"hahahahaha.....no. a 99-2004 GT will not even come close to hanging with an LS1 F-body. i raced a 97 Cobra the other night, 305 HP 4.6L DOHC V8 and stomped it in the ground. now your telling me a 1999 GT with 285 HP SOHC 4.6L V8 will keep up with my LS1? "

I have to say I have owned a stock 01 GT, 2000 WS-6, and a 03 Cobra and my Trans Am was my favorite so I don't think my opinion is one sided when I say a good driver in an 99-04 GT 5 spd can keep up and/or maybe beat a LS-1 in a 1/8th mile "on the street". There is something about the mustangs "on the street" I know my GT probably wouldn't run a 9.0 in an 1/8th but I beat an 8.5 "very consistant" SLP SS on the road without much if any driver error. They are just fun good running for the power cars so don't knock if you haven't ever had one. "Truth be known the people that down play them so much probably got beat by one of these "slow cars" lol
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When I was on my stock rear I'd briskly let the clutch out from around 2k RPM, immediately go to between 1/4 and 1/2 throttle and as the tires started to hook I'd start to gradually feed the throttle to 100%. You'll just have to play with it.

FWIW I have BF Goodrich G-Force KDW (275/40-17s) and they'll take a fairly aggressive launch at 2200-2500 on the street. That's with a 9" and 4.11s. Admittedly sometimes I have to pedal. On the other hand I also like to bolt up the M/T drag radials and dead hook a 4000+ RPM clutch dump and instantly go wide open and rip AWD turbo cars off the line.



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