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Old 01-01-2008, 06:45 PM
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I love my black Trans Am.
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I love my Red Trans AM WS6! I can be driving it and see another Trans Am and my heart will drop! I just love the way they look! SO MEAN!!!!!
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can't go wrong with a Navy blue metallic camaro!!!!!





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Originally Posted by darrensls1
Forged internals would have been nice. Anything over 500 rwhp and the stock shortblock is on borrowed time. But I guess you gotta take the good with the bad.
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Not exactly....these cranks and such are rated to 750hp at the crank. Tons and tons of cars are making 650 or so on the juice and FI.
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Like has already been said....find the best deal on your favorite. SS and WS6 are the same car under the skin.
Old 01-01-2008, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mike#9
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Not exactly....these cranks and such are rated to 750hp at the crank. Tons and tons of cars are making 650 or so on the juice and FI.
I agree //// these cranks and such are rated to 750hp at the crank. Tons and tons of cars are making 650 or so on the juice and FI.
Yep there are alot of cars making well over 500 & Some north of 600 on stock bottom ends in the cf forum ,I see more there in the FI forum than i do here @ Ls1 tech but it is still an Ls1 Some that i have seen North of 600 rwhp on stock bottom ends were Sc'd Ls6 stock internals, ,chriwstx made 620rwhp with his stockblock stock internals ,hes also is in a sc vette ,same as mine ,same fi as mine also ,so it depends on how u treat them ,same way with a fuel pump ,u want the pump to last ?,dont run it wot with less than 1/4 tank & i bet u it will last longer than the ones that people run @ wot on near empty ,Also alot of the SC stock Internal motors are running meth
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FRC's were built in 99-00. They turned into the Z06 in 2001 when the put the brake ducts and the ls6 motor in them. FRC's are slightly less weight then a coupe or convertible and are generally a less optioned car.
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Originally Posted by mike#9
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Not exactly....these cranks and such are rated to 750hp at the crank. Tons and tons of cars are making 650 or so on the juice and FI.
It's not the crank I would be worried about. In fact, I think the crank is good to 1000 rwhp. It's the pistons, specifically number 7. I've spent hours and hours researching here over the last 4-5 years. I know the stock bottom end record is well in the 9's. I know many people have had 600 rwhp last a long time.

But I also know that plenty of people have blown stock bottem end motors at 500+ rwhp. I'm not discounting the people who have had success. I'm just saying you can't ignore the people who havn't. Most people making over 500 rwhp are also spinning 6700+ rpm redlines and do a lot of racing.

IMO once you start making that kind of power, spin high redlines and race on a regular basis then motor survival is a crap shoot. You may be a lucky one but you may also be another guy posting a new thread in the stock internal section with a title along the lines of:

"Blew number 7 piston over the weekend should I go forged 346 or stroker?"
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WOW thats good power for a bottom end to hold. I know that when I had the mach 1, their motors wouldnt hold more then 500hp unles you changed you bottom end for something stronger. What the pistons made from & whats their compression ratio?

You guys are great with info & help. Thanks alot. My buddys are rite, this form is great & friendly. Unlike Mach1Registry.com, nothing but ******** with their heads stuck in their *** of the other guys ***.
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GMexican- what type of wheels are you running in the 2nd and 3rd pics?? More shots of the rims please!
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Originally Posted by AronZ28
GMexican- what type of wheels are you running in the 2nd and 3rd pics?? More shots of the rims please!
I think those aren't the same car, notice the different stripes on the hoodscoop. I noticed those wheels too, nice deep dish.
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Originally Posted by RedFireKnight
I use to own a 03 Mach 1 and now I have an 03 Cobra. But I am looking foward to expand my taste. I never hated GM, I always loved the T/A, Camaros, the Vettes & grand nationals.

I am doing a research before my next car buy.
Here are my options:

Camaro SS
Trans AM WS6 or firebird, firehawk.
Corvette Z06
Grand National

I know that the Z06 is a bit expensive but they look great and I already know that they are awsome fast as cars.

But which LS1 equiped car is lighter & better? the camaro ss or Trans Am?
Hell with the Z06. Get a base C5. You're going to want to add heads and cam anyway
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Get the trans am, they are sexy and can be found at amazing deals. got mine with 23k miles for 11.5k. Just look around and dont be afraid to travel to get it
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Originally Posted by AronZ28
GMexican- what type of wheels are you running in the 2nd and 3rd pics?? More shots of the rims please!
third pic is Ironhead, a forum member those are i-forged aeros

the second pic is a local guy here i can find out for you if you want to know what wheels hes running
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Originally Posted by RedFireKnight
WOW thats good power for a bottom end to hold. I know that when I had the mach 1, their motors wouldnt hold more then 500hp unles you changed you bottom end for something stronger. What the pistons made from & whats their compression ratio?

You guys are great with info & help. Thanks alot. My buddys are rite, this form is great & friendly. Unlike Mach1Registry.com, nothing but ******** with their heads stuck in their *** of the other guys ***.
hey i suggest getting to know local lsx guys at meets around your area, talk 2 them hear and drive there cars if they let you
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Originally Posted by RedFireKnight
I use to own a 03 Mach 1 and now I have an 03 Cobra. But I am looking foward to expand my taste. I never hated GM, I always loved the T/A, Camaros, the Vettes & grand nationals.
KEEP THE 03 COBRA!!!!
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Originally Posted by Nitrous_Junkie_SVT
KEEP THE 03 COBRA!!!!
he is keeping it but wants another car
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Originally Posted by Nitrous_Junkie_SVT
KEEP THE 03 COBRA!!!!
Now that was a completely un-biased opinion, even if it was irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by RedFireKnight
lol yea!! They are great engines. I hear nothing but good about them.
well LS1's are ok but they dont have VTEC..

Originally Posted by Gaunt
Now that was a completely un-biased opinion, even if it was irrelevant.
Unless hes having problems with it he should keep it i think there a much better cars...
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I currently own a 2002 Camaro SS LE which is a fun car from the factory. Its my third LS1 Car Ive owned, 5th LS Engine Ive owned(also owned a 99 & 02 Silverado). I couldnt picture myself without an LS Based engine car.

I also own a 90 Firebird with a Grand National Powertrain sitting under it. It sounds like a V6, feels like a V6 and pulls faster than Dodge Vipers!! Mine has been modded of course. If your looking to mod, the LS1 would definately be a better choice to start with.

I personally would opt for a low mile C5 Vette and put a healthy cam and head setup on it. Good luck in your search



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