2002 Camaro or Trans?
#21
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
everyone has already said everything you just said. its based on looks. i didnt say that he was a moron for liking convertible i was just saying for example i dont like vert. read a little.
#22
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (26)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Western Section
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
#23
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Longwood, FL
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I live in Los Angeles, California so you can't beat a convertable come summer time... With winter coming up the Converts seem to be very affortibe compared to the dead of summer also...
Thanks for the replies gents, maybe the Camaro I test drove needed a tune up or something...So the spec's are the basically the same...Hmmmm? I thought maybe the T/A was tuned a bit different or something... I am going to check out a few more and make a decision...
Question - How many miles is too many on these cars?... I know some GM cars are basically throw aways after 100,000 miles or so... Lot's of rattles, oil leaks, incabin air leaks, steering wheel play, suspension float, etc.. What's the story on these rides with around 75,000 miles or so, what maintenance to look for?
Thanks...
Thanks for the replies gents, maybe the Camaro I test drove needed a tune up or something...So the spec's are the basically the same...Hmmmm? I thought maybe the T/A was tuned a bit different or something... I am going to check out a few more and make a decision...
Question - How many miles is too many on these cars?... I know some GM cars are basically throw aways after 100,000 miles or so... Lot's of rattles, oil leaks, incabin air leaks, steering wheel play, suspension float, etc.. What's the story on these rides with around 75,000 miles or so, what maintenance to look for?
Thanks...
#24
TECH Resident
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: fl.
Posts: 962
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
camaro has a incest look sort of catty fishy , no style chemicaly imbalanced, now the trans am has looks,style,aggressive-ness, looks fast just sitting there, lol my .02 $$
#25
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: May 2008
Location: VA
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
If you like getting mistaken for a chrysler sebring from the front, get a camaro. If you want a SLIGHTLY more upscale car, go T/A ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
It's all personal preference. They're both great cars. Just be aware they both have weak auto trannies and rear axles. They're barely adequate for a stock vehicle.
![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
It's all personal preference. They're both great cars. Just be aware they both have weak auto trannies and rear axles. They're barely adequate for a stock vehicle.
#27
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 1,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Just the opposite, IMO. A stock non-SS Camaro is just about one of the most boring looking cars on the road.
Even a base V6 'Bird has style! Gotta love those curves.
As far as picking one or the other, if you like the Camaro better, well there you go. Personally I like the T/A better, but I'm a bit biased as I've owned 4 'Birds. I jusr really like the curves of the Pontiac, I think they're very sexy and agressive at the same time, and don't look like a Sebring when you see one in the rearview, lol.
#28
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I live in Los Angeles, California so you can't beat a convertable come summer time... With winter coming up the Converts seem to be very affortibe compared to the dead of summer also...
Thanks for the replies gents, maybe the Camaro I test drove needed a tune up or something...So the spec's are the basically the same...Hmmmm? I thought maybe the T/A was tuned a bit different or something... I am going to check out a few more and make a decision...
Question - How many miles is too many on these cars?... I know some GM cars are basically throw aways after 100,000 miles or so... Lot's of rattles, oil leaks, incabin air leaks, steering wheel play, suspension float, etc.. What's the story on these rides with around 75,000 miles or so, what maintenance to look for?
Thanks...
Thanks for the replies gents, maybe the Camaro I test drove needed a tune up or something...So the spec's are the basically the same...Hmmmm? I thought maybe the T/A was tuned a bit different or something... I am going to check out a few more and make a decision...
Question - How many miles is too many on these cars?... I know some GM cars are basically throw aways after 100,000 miles or so... Lot's of rattles, oil leaks, incabin air leaks, steering wheel play, suspension float, etc.. What's the story on these rides with around 75,000 miles or so, what maintenance to look for?
Thanks...
![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
#29
12 Second Club
iTrader: (28)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
TA. They traditionally hold their value better than Camaros (unless they have "race" history or some historic significance). Either way, 98+ verts are some of the lower production runs in 4th gen F-body history and are likely to become collectible. Get what you like. I like birds more just because of the interior and exterior styling cues.
#31
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
my .02... go camaro vert. After 3 camaros (2 ttop, 1 hard) i picked up a vert... and lemme tell u, its a completely different feeling. Vert with open cutouts and some good thumpin music = THE SHIAAAAT.
Go firebird if you're not going to be messing with exterior much.. otherwise.. go camaro. IMO, you can decorate a camaro from the outside more than you can a firebird.. they all look alike!
Go firebird if you're not going to be messing with exterior much.. otherwise.. go camaro. IMO, you can decorate a camaro from the outside more than you can a firebird.. they all look alike!
#32
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Camaro has a much more refined look more streamline. T/A's although nice, they look too busy, especially the front of the Ws6 with the hood scoops on top of hood scoops, air ducts all over the place and a spoiler that borders on being a whale tail. Also pop up head lights are out, just look at every high end perf car that ever had them. The camaro headlights help keep the styling more modern.
#33
Village Idiot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Santa Monica, California
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Man you guys are serious about your Camaro's and Trans AM's.. I guess I am on the right forum for my inquiries!!!
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
Sorry for all the questions fellas but I am really just learning about these cars...I should probably google all this info...Guys, I am really bumbed out about the weak rearend and trannies on the Camaro's and T/A's... Almost makes me not want to get either.. How do you guys deal with that? Why didn't Gm know we all wanted to modify these Camaro's and T/A's so why didn't they use the transaxle trannies like what you find in the Vette's? That would have made more sense for all of us....
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
Sorry for all the questions fellas but I am really just learning about these cars...I should probably google all this info...Guys, I am really bumbed out about the weak rearend and trannies on the Camaro's and T/A's... Almost makes me not want to get either.. How do you guys deal with that? Why didn't Gm know we all wanted to modify these Camaro's and T/A's so why didn't they use the transaxle trannies like what you find in the Vette's? That would have made more sense for all of us....
Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-19-2008 at 08:20 PM.
#34
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The F-body's do have weak rear ends, BUT there are a few people with A LOT of rwhp with stock rear ends. There's a guy on this forum with twin turbos on his SS with 900+rwhp on the stock rear end. Do you plan on getting an automatic or a manual? These motors (pretty much every motor) will last long if you do the regular maintenance. SS's and Z/28's are the same and not all SS's have the 35th anniversary stripes. Monte Carlo SS's are not the same as Camaro's or Trans Am's. They're slower for sure! If I were you I would get a Camaro Z/28 because anything can be an SS, but a Z/28 can only be 1 thing.
#35
Village Idiot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Santa Monica, California
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Monte Carlo's are slower...OK... I was thinking of getting an automatic in this Los Angeles, California traffic... Are the Manuals more stout? If there is a big difference then I will bite the bullet and get a manual...
Thanks for the reply...
Thanks for the reply...
#36
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Man you guys are serious about your Camaro's and Trans AM's.. I guess I am on the right forum for my inquiries!!!
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
....
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
....
As to the difference between SS and Z-28, it's primarily an appearance mod. For a 2002, the SS got a bigger anti-sway bar, 17" wheels, the hood scoop and a bigger spoiler. Not much in the way of performance difference.
The model with the stripes in the picture is a 2002 SS 35th Anniversary Special Edition. Here in Vegas, there is a low mileage (32k) babied one in the paper for $18k, which seems about right.
Monte Carlo SS is a front wheel drive. A Silverado pickup has more in common with a late model F-body that that car. As far as I'm concerned, GM auto front wheel drive cars definitly meet the 100k mile throw away spec.
#38
TECH Addict
iTrader: (12)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Man you guys are serious about your Camaro's and Trans AM's.. I guess I am on the right forum for my inquiries!!!
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
Sorry for all the questions fellas but I am really just learning about these cars...I should probably google all this info...Guys, I am really bumbed out about the weak rearend and trannies on the Camaro's and T/A's... Almost makes me not want to get either.. How do you guys deal with that? Why didn't Gm know we all wanted to modify these Camaro's and T/A's so why didn't they use the transaxle trannies like what you find in the Vette's? That would have made more sense for all of us....
So the auto trannies and rearends are weak, that is news to me...So they can't take much more power over stock..THAT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!! I was thinking I might boost the car, so what does everyone do to the tranny and rearend to hold lets say an additional 150whp?????? Is there build up kits, or do you have to swap crap out?
Thanks for the reply to high mile question guys..You know who you are... So 50,000-60,000 miles is what I will be shooting for...
Last question what is the difference between the SS Camaro's and the standard Z28 Camaro's? Is there any performance difference? I kinda like the SS's and the racing stripe, also they are a bit more rare to see....
Any thoughts on the Monte Carlo SS's? I found a real cheap black one and am wondering if that is basically the same as the Camaro's and T/A's?...
Sorry for all the questions fellas but I am really just learning about these cars...I should probably google all this info...Guys, I am really bumbed out about the weak rearend and trannies on the Camaro's and T/A's... Almost makes me not want to get either.. How do you guys deal with that? Why didn't Gm know we all wanted to modify these Camaro's and T/A's so why didn't they use the transaxle trannies like what you find in the Vette's? That would have made more sense for all of us....
You want to add 150+hp then you're gonna need a built trans and rearend, bottom line. No reason to get bummed, part of the modding game, you can't just slap on horsepower and hope it holds together.
#39
Village Idiot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Santa Monica, California
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
WOW...Arrestmeredz an awesome reply... Thanks for the input.. I am out on the Monte Carlo knowing it is front wheel drive...YUCK!!!!!
Yeah, well the car I have now sports 330whp so anything less would be a disappointing..So mods will be most definetely be on the way after the purchase knowing me..... I like to grip so MT tires would be my choice combined with an LSD.....Rearend change would definetely be in order just for the LSD upgrade.. The weak rearend I can live with...So the Manual tranny's are can handle more hp's then the automatic's... That makes sense to me so a manual I will shoot for....
The SS and Z28 Camaro's arent different in the performance department.. So why even call it Super Sport?... It's defenitely more sporty looking for sure but with out the Super....... Go figure?
Chaves - not true...The ZO6's can handle alot of HP's over stock, my old SC400 came 186whp in stock form and now sports 330whp and 400 torque on the same stock auto tranny.. That's using nitro too...The Lexus rearend can handle way more Hp's too.. A little bumbed with the weak GM tranny issue, but not a door closer... I'm too in love with the LS Engines.. That's being truthful without any disrespect..
Yeah, well the car I have now sports 330whp so anything less would be a disappointing..So mods will be most definetely be on the way after the purchase knowing me..... I like to grip so MT tires would be my choice combined with an LSD.....Rearend change would definetely be in order just for the LSD upgrade.. The weak rearend I can live with...So the Manual tranny's are can handle more hp's then the automatic's... That makes sense to me so a manual I will shoot for....
The SS and Z28 Camaro's arent different in the performance department.. So why even call it Super Sport?... It's defenitely more sporty looking for sure but with out the Super....... Go figure?
Chaves - not true...The ZO6's can handle alot of HP's over stock, my old SC400 came 186whp in stock form and now sports 330whp and 400 torque on the same stock auto tranny.. That's using nitro too...The Lexus rearend can handle way more Hp's too.. A little bumbed with the weak GM tranny issue, but not a door closer... I'm too in love with the LS Engines.. That's being truthful without any disrespect..
Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-19-2008 at 10:02 PM.
#40
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i bought a 99 TA non ws6 since ther arent that many differences between the two. its like a z28 compared to an SS. to me just wasn't worth money for an m6 car too. and it has ben said and is tried n true. the camaro looks like it can kick your *** but the ws6 looks like its gonna come over and do it. depends on your taste dont limit your self to a year but instead look her in the forums. there is (or was) a 2002 ws6 ta thats turbo with a ton of other goodies for sale in the northwest forum for $14k. so keep ur yesy peeled and be patient.there is also a roller camaro for 1900 on there too. u never know when a deal will come around
happy hunting bro and good luck
![Secret2](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/secret.gif)