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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Whats up guys? This is my first post! Actually its my brothers car but I am the mechanic and know all the questions to ask... so they say. Well I guess down to business. He has the car in my sig and we are also getting afr 205 heads, g5x3 cam, fast 92 mm intake manifold, ported 90 throttlebody, lg pro longtubes and a nitrous kit. We want a nitrous kit for about 100-200 shot and we want the install to look pimp. We were just trying to get opinions and do research before we started getting all the parts. I myself dont know much about nitrous so any input would be very helpful along with personal experiences. I just saw the nitrous express multi port Ls1 wet kit Looks pretty sweet!??
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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here is our plate kit and accessory package

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...age=1&featured

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...cat=398&page=1

The plate offers superior distribution with 10 nitrous and 10 fuel discharge points spread around the full 360 degrees of the perimeter. It produces a conical spray pattern that reduces turbulance of the incoming air. It will flow all you will ever need.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Being a machanic I am sure you already know there are tons of options on most any part. Designs and quality will vary.

Looking at the mod list you have planed you will defintly need a fuel system upgrade as well. You may look into the racetronix system. It will support up to 650 rear wheel hp.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...product_id=966

Since you plan on spraying in the range of 200 HP. You may end up needing more of a fuel upgrade than listed above. Watch the fuel pressure and if it starts to drop you will need to looking into one of our dedicated fuel systems.

I would suggest looking at our plate system. Our design is well known for delivering Big reliable horse power. Our plate system is the only efi plate on the market capable of flowing over 400 horse power. With that being said you will not hit a wall with what you have and you can grow with it. Let me know if I can help in any way.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Our plate system is the only efi plate on the market capable of flowing over 400 horse power.

There is more to it then just flow, but if flow is what you are comparing our brute force plate will far exceed that. thanks
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@HSW
There is more to it then just flow, but if flow is what you are comparing our brute force plate will far exceed that. thanks
yes, you plate can flow that IF it is purchased in your kit, if you buy the plate seperate it has been known to me that it will only flow a 125 or 150 correct?


to the op.

coming from a nitrous guy without tons of cash and wanting the best flowing and functional kit both for performance and apperance, you simply cant beat nitrous outlet. there stuff might be a little bit more costly but, from 1st hand experience chris and grant over there treat you like family when you call their asking for advice, technical help or to add something to your kit.

so what im getting at, the best kit hands down is the n20 outlet plate, they have a 92mm plate, their bad *** cylinder head bracket and of course all the custom fittings and hose to really make your kit stand out. if you want ill pm you a pic of my setup that chris and grant set me up with, couldnt be happier, and when the guys at the track see n20 outlet on that plate instead of hsw, that says it all.

good luck with your decision, i have personally purchased from both company's both have their strengths but from personal experience with both the hsw plate and n20 outlet plate, and n20 outlets plates craftsmanship is second to none.

again big thanks to chris and grant, and ray for setting me up with all the wiring diagrams per pm very quickly for my exact setup.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@HSW
There is more to it then just flow, but if flow is what you are comparing our brute force plate will far exceed that. thanks
You are 100 percent correct on this one. There is alot more to a product than just flow. Delivery, fitment and attomization also play a key role. We take all these factors into consideration when designing our products. The end result speaks for its self.

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Originally Posted by SStud
yes, you plate can flow that IF it is purchased in your kit, if you buy the plate seperate it has been known to me that it will only flow a 125 or 150 correct?


to the op.

coming from a nitrous guy without tons of cash and wanting the best flowing and functional kit both for performance and apperance, you simply cant beat nitrous outlet. there stuff might be a little bit more costly but, from 1st hand experience chris and grant over there treat you like family when you call their asking for advice, technical help or to add something to your kit.

so what im getting at, the best kit hands down is the n20 outlet plate, they have a 92mm plate, their bad *** cylinder head bracket and of course all the custom fittings and hose to really make your kit stand out. if you want ill pm you a pic of my setup that chris and grant set me up with, couldnt be happier, and when the guys at the track see n20 outlet on that plate instead of hsw, that says it all.

good luck with your decision, i have personally purchased from both company's both have their strengths but from personal experience with both the hsw plate and n20 outlet plate, and n20 outlets plates craftsmanship is second to none.

again big thanks to chris and grant, and ray for setting me up with all the wiring diagrams per pm very quickly for my exact setup.
Thank you for the compliments. Ill give my guys a pat on the back today..
Dave
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Originally Posted by SStud
yes, you plate can flow that IF it is purchased in your kit, if you buy the plate seperate it has been known to me that it will only flow a 125 or 150 correct?
Correct. Just as we wouldn't offer a Brute Force plate kit that exceeded 200hp through the front of the intake. It is the position of HSW that doing so is not safe and therefore we would not offer a kit that we didn't feel was safe. Other companies are free to market their products as they wish. If this makes us the bad person on the block, so be it. If the end user wishes to exceed our recommendations they do so at their own risk. All of our products generally outflow their rated recommendations. Case in point the 90mm brute force plates flowed in excess of a shot equal to 500hp both on nitrous and fuel. Spraying that much into the plenum of an efi intake is flat out dumb in my opinion.

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Not trying to get into the sponsor drama llama here, but we have sprayed 450HP thru a Nitrous Outlet Plate NUMEROUS times on a couple of our combos with ZERO issues. Plugs always showed good distribution and no detonation.

It might not be the "smartest" thing to do as you so eliquently put it, but when you are building a car for certain classes that dont allow foggers/direct ports this is your only option.

As said above, Nitrous Outlet has some of THE best customer service in the industry!!
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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I completely agree that using any plate other than ours to spray over 200 through the front of the intake would be dumb...... You can get away with poor designs and poor delivery on small shots but when you get in the higher HP range the product design better be 100 percent right or you will hurt the motor.

We would not suggest using anyone elses plate other than ours for Horse power levels over 200 or more.
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
You are 100 percent correct on this one. There is alot more to a product than just flow. Delivery, fitment and attomization also play a key role. We take all these factors into consideration when designing our products. The end result speaks for its self.

Dave
I agree. Exactly why each of our products go through a rigorous testing phase prior to being released. Not only at our facilities but by independent contractors as well. We simply don't bolt it to a car look at the dyno graph and start shipping products like I see so many companies doing now a days.

In regards to the forthcoming pissing match...I believe Mike was just correcting your statement in regards to being the only plate on the market to flow in excess of your numbers which was obviously incorrect.

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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LOL looks like I was late to the parade...

Have fun discussing it guys.

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick@HSW
I agree. Exactly why each of our products go through a rigorous testing phase prior to being released. Not only at our facilities but by independent contractors as well. We simply don't bolt it to a car look at the dyno graph and start shipping products like I see so many companies doing now a days.

In regards to the forthcoming pissing match...I believe Mike was just correcting your statement in regards to being the only plate on the market to flow in excess of your numbers which was obviously incorrect.

Nick
I am glad we are all in agreeance here. Looks like we can move on and all the questions have been answered.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Thanks for all of your input! Looks like I have some pondering to do....
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