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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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your right a 52 is a 52 etc... but he was saying the plate does a much better job dist and vaporizing the fuel and n20, rather than your tnt kit obviously.
Your right your plate is a better design then my old TNT kit i used to run 4 years ago.I've since moved onto bigger and better things but it got the job done back then, i wanted to run around a 150rwhp shot and it got me there. TNT was known to put out slightly higher then advertised numbers because they tend to run a little fatter on there jetting.

I imagine the same thing was true for yours considering the .031 fuel jet, the proper fuel jet to match a .052 n2o jet with 58# of fuel pressure and 950# bottle pressure should have been a .027 the .031 would have been right if you were running a lower fuel pressure or bigger n2o jet(.060) & more bottle pressure.

just realize your not running a 100 shot, your running a 160shot, regardless of what the jets say you need to go by what its putting down. if thats what you want thats great. but its a little ridicules to compare how "hard" your "100" shot hits compared to the next guys 100 shot. of coarse yours "hits harder" your putting down 160rwhp vs. his properly setup actual 100hp shot.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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i think some dyno dynamic dynos alittle high. with just a catback and no cats you should be 335-340 range i would think but some dyno higher/lower than others. you have a strong setup but i think on a different type of dyno like a dynojet your rwhp on spray will be in the 12x to 13x range more than n/a.

please just understand what some on here are saying and look at things from someone else's view.those results are just not typical for your amount of mods.if you are happy that is all that matters,just trying to help out bro.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
just realize your not running a 100 shot, your running a 160shot, regardless of what the jets say you need to go by what its putting down. if thats what you want thats great. but its a little ridicules to compare how "hard" your "100" shot hits compared to the next guys 100 shot. of coarse yours "hits harder" your putting down 160rwhp vs. his properly setup actual 100hp shot.
Agreed. I think this is the big point that people are trying to get across that is being missed.

That aside, I'm very curious to see how it runs at the track. Should be a beast!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Great numbers for bragging rights but for accuracy and knowing how to tune the car, what to expect with the next jet up or down, not such a great number. Still congrats!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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well, who do i blame for the car making ridiculous power on the correct 100 shot jets? nx?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Agreed. I think this is the big point that people are trying to get across that is being missed.

That aside, I'm very curious to see how it runs at the track. Should be a beast!
well my dr's have been coming in from pa to so cal, so i should be picking them u wed i imagine, get them on by then and make it to the local track thurs and see the trap speed.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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btw the car was tuned on 91, it did not knock once, and when ill be spraying on the street i will be using a fuel additive just for saftey sake


and i need to hurry up and put my headers on
FYI. don't wait for it to knock. read the plugs and look for detonation. if it reads knock it will be to late
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Very nice gains.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
FYI. don't wait for it to knock. read the plugs and look for detonation. if it reads knock it will be to late
great advice, thank you
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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that dyno is definitely off (dont matter dyno dynamics, dj, mustang) any user can change to skew things.

just verified by letting us know you are making 361rwhp without headers LOL.

granatelli wires,tr6 plugs, gmmg cat back, hollowed cats and a tune. this setup at best should make 330rwhp through a auto even then its strong! 361rwhp is just retareded through a auto.That means if your car had a m6 it would be 380 390rwhp out of a NON HEADER STOCK LS1 LMFAO!! hahahahahaha now do you get it?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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granatelli wires,tr6 plugs, gmmg cat back, hollowed cats and a tune.

these are not un heard of n/a numbers. and right after my car came off the dyno, a c5 with a tune and exhaust made 339 wheel. just to put that into perspective the dyno was not reading ridiculous numbers, all the cars dyno'd that day were putting up respectable numbers. heads, cam maggie gto with meth made 525 wheel and 530 tq right after my car.
right doesnt something sound funny when ALL THE CARS that day were dynoing strong! they are making more than strong #s. No its not typical. Maybe to you guys cause you guys are used to this dyno.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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go to the track that damn thing should be a beast
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CraZee ZO6
right doesnt something sound funny when ALL THE CARS that day were dynoing strong! they are making more than strong #s. No its not typical. Maybe to you guys cause you guys are used to this dyno.
its a 6 speed, anyhow, car made 340/350 before hollowed cats and i fixed the problem with my throttle not opening all the way,

guess you didnt read where i dont care about the power numbers, the a/f is right, the car doest detonate and the thing runs hard and gained a **** load of power,
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
go to the track that damn thing should be a beast
im hoping for some decent trap speeds
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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well, who do i blame for the car making ridiculous power on the correct 100 shot jets? nx?
since it wasn't actually on the correct 100 shot jetting as Nx recommends 52n/28f(thats with 1050psi, at your 950psi a .027 would of been needed) , I guess you can blame/thank yourself, however you want to look at it, for using to large of a fuel jet and it seemingly working out for your particular application.

me, I would rather have the correct jetting, making the correct power for said jetting and be able to accurately jet up or down from there and know exactly where im at.
as an example the 160hp off the 100 would be the same increase as 240hp off the 150s do you see how that might be a problem fo some one expecting 150? even in your case, you never mentioned having an upgraded fuel pump. a 100shot on the stock pump should be fine but a 150 shot and especially a 160 is not good on the stock pump and will have it over working to keep up with the demand. maybe thats why you had to over jet the fuel side?

the people in this thread are not knocking you or giving you crap because we are jealous of your seemingly high numbers, were trying to look out for you. there is a lot of experience in this thread trying to lend advice, I wouldnt be so quick to push it away.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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OP be sure to recheck A/F at the track. on a non loaded dyno they tend to go lean when you add a load( weight of the car vs roler weight) Probably a good jet's worth at 100hp at the track. BTW wehats this "perfect a/f" you have?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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14.63 LOL

Shiz is right, the car on the street puts a true load on the motor, which will effect the tune up.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
OP be sure to recheck A/F at the track. on a non loaded dyno they tend to go lean when you add a load( weight of the car vs roler weight) Probably a good jet's worth at 100hp at the track. BTW wehats this "perfect a/f" you have?
he said somewhere that the AFR was a 12.8
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Either your verify on the dyno, or a slide ruler as well as checking the plugs immediately after a hard run to verify how the motor is liking it. Being tuned safe is one thing but actually verifying the motor's condition is another. Both should be done and no one should assume that just doing the tune is the only thing that needs to be done.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 69_YENKO
he said somewhere that the AFR was a 12.8
That is way too lean on the jug. That could also explain why he is making so much power on those pills. To me, I try not to get any higher than 11.7-11.8 while spraying. Maybe I need to get that lean and my car will run the #
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