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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Would you guys run a vic jr on bolt on/spray car?

Or am i better of with a ls6/fast?
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I'll let you know in a couple weeks, installing one on my friends car. I cant see spending 1000+ anymore on a fast. Vic jrs distribute nitrous much better and its kinda hard to out grow them.
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^ Kinda what im thinking. Looking for a nasty street car. But im not one who cries about "low end torque". I have 4.10s a LOOSE 3700 flash speed and a 3100 pound car. My low end is 4k.

Can i get some stats on your friends car sir?
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Hes a stock bottom end with stock heads and a 228R cam. TH400 w/ 3800 converter, full boltons. We plan on spraying a 100 shot. Just do it right and be done with it.
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In my opion it is to much intake for a bolt on car. You will loose a good bit of low and mid range performance.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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In my opion it is to much intake for a bolt on car. You will loose a good bit of low and mid range performance.
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I always hear that....

Both the cars in the thread have steep gears and fat stall... Im yet to see my cars Low end. Where would the vic start to out perform?
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The victor JR will start to out perform the fast around 6500 RPM.

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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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So basically you guys are saying that the Vic Jr. will perform better with spray than the others? I've been gaining interest in that intake so I'm curious as well!
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The car will lose low end torque. I have a 5K stall, and went from cutting low 1.3 60's with an LS6 intake to a low 1.4 with the Victor Jr. The car just felt lazy on the launch.
Once the car gets moving, you can feel it want to keep pulling.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
The car will lose low end torque. I have a 5K stall, and went from cutting low 1.3 60's with an LS6 intake to a low 1.4 with the Victor Jr. The car just felt lazy on the launch.
Once the car gets moving, you can feel it want to keep pulling.
I am curious to see how much of that was the elbow versus the intake. Unless you change something else with your suspension or drivetrain we should get a pretty good idea.
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Originally Posted by Mike@HSW
I am curious to see how much of that was the elbow versus the intake. Unless you change something else with your suspension or drivetrain we should get a pretty good idea.
Yeah, the elbow wasn't good for my setup. I don't plan on any real suspension changes, just a little weight out of the front. We'll see how it goes with the new kits.
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We did alot of testing a when edelbrock released the victor intake. So have many vendors. If you do not have a big cubed motor turning higher rpms of 6500 pluss you will not see a gain. Odds are you will see a loss if anything. Dont get me wrong the intake works well with nitrous but for an average street car you will see better over all results out of a ported fast 90. Yes I know the ported fast 90 cost more..

I would venture further than this section and talk to some of the shops with experience.
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Also, I would debate the overall cost benefit of the Vic Jr. By the time you get their rails, misc fittings, elbow, 90mm TB, etc. The Vic will nickle and dime you to death.

I will see how mine acts this year with it ported and with the 4150, but I think I could have gone with a 90/90 and been just as happy.
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
Also, I would debate the overall cost benefit of the Vic Jr. By the time you get their rails, misc fittings, elbow, 90mm TB, etc. The Vic will nickle and dime you to death.

I will see how mine acts this year with it ported and with the 4150, but I think I could have gone with a 90/90 and been just as happy.
I here you there. It does work out to be alittle cheaper if you compare both set ups having after market fuel rails.

Thoses hoses and fittings and elbow adds up on that Victor JR.
Lets see. Of the top of my head.

Victor JR-400-420
Elbow-280-300
Hoses and fittings 150-175
Total of around 830-895

Vendors are selling fast 90s on here for around 800 and you can use your factory fuel rails..

If you go after market fuel rails add 175 and another 150-175 for hoses and fittings..

Dave
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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I keep hearing about nitrous and fuel pooling in the factory style intakes. plus in the event of a nitrous backfire a plastic intake could blow apart. I would have run an ls6 intake if I wasn't going to be spraying.

I've got about 800 bucks in my intake setup so far. I still need fuel fittings and a fuel regulator. But it looks cool as hell
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Originally Posted by lsxpinto
I keep hearing about nitrous and fuel pooling in the factory style intakes. plus in the event of a nitrous backfire a plastic intake could blow apart. I would have run an ls6 intake if I wasn't going to be spraying.

I've got about 800 bucks in my intake setup so far. I still need fuel fittings and a fuel regulator. But it looks cool as hell

The people talking about fuel puddling are full of _ _ _ _ and have no idea what they are talking about. Thats the bigest problem with todays internet know it alls.
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
The people talking about fuel puddling are full of _ _ _ _ and have no idea what they are talking about. Thats the bigest problem with todays internet know it alls.
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Well put!
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
The people talking about fuel puddling are full of _ _ _ _ and have no idea what they are talking about. Thats the bigest problem with todays internet know it alls.
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Thanks, I haven't heard much discussion about puddling or any examples that prove the theory. I have seen pictures of plastic intakes blown apart though.
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Most back fires are due to no window switch, poor tune up or c
Poorly designed products. Knowing the flow limitations of the intake you are working with is also very important.
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if you go with a vic jr/n2o on a 347... make sure your cam sings past 6200 and port match the runners to your heads, also the elbow sucks and youre better off getting a 4bbl type throttle body. the vic jr/n2o plate out performs a fast/n2o plate...
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