Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Who has actually killed an engine with spray?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:17 AM
  #41  
ShiznityZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 1
From: GB MD
Default

Originally Posted by driftpin
Sorry but I have to disagree. A turbo or a supercharger progressively increases power to the rotating assembly. With nitrous, unless you're using an electronic progressive controller you are hitting that rotating assembly all at once with that extra O2/nitrous and fuel increasing cylinder pressure driving that slug down the bore harder than normal.

Next time one of you nitrous guys pull your rod bearings look at the top half of it and you'll see the beating they take. Just my opinion. Remember I said it was 3rd in line so I'm not disagreeing with the tune.
We just pulled a set with 200 passes. looked liek when we put in but we only have a 400 shot on it so i guess were not hitting it hard enough. BTW nitrous does not beat up bearings detonation does and thats in the tune!
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:21 AM
  #42  
ShiznityZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 1
From: GB MD
Default

Originally Posted by ty_ty13
now when heavy nitrous is used on steel rods yes it i's hard on bearings but steel rods have there place just not in hi HP motors...
we have steel rods in ours. hell they have 5-600 passes on them. gotta love the compstars.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:27 AM
  #43  
ShiznityZ28's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 1
From: GB MD
Default

Originally Posted by driftpin
So when you built you 8 second nitrous car you installed stock bearings right?
Thats the dumbest argument ever.

You don't use stock bearings on any PA car you don't use stock rods or pushrods or springs wither. doesn't mean nitrous beats them up.


We have not killed a bearing yet on any of our cars with well over 2000 nitrous passes over 3-4 cars and 7 years with nitrous ls1's. We do have enough pistons and rings burned up to fill a kitchen trash can. We fd those up learning nitrous and never hurt a bearing. looking back 4 years we had some of the worst tuneups i can think of....
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 01:36 AM
  #44  
skeels's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington, NC
Default

I blew my bolt on ls1 up, but it was driver error. I went thru 10+ bottles of a 75 shot with the car untuned and stuck in open loop and a 100k mile fuel filter and no fpss. The plugs came out white and green and rainbow. Piston 5 & 7 just had holes in the side about the size of a quarter.
Now a buddy of mine put a 160 shot on a bolt on LT1... but was a dumbass and forgot to take out the schrader valve so he wasnt getting any fuel. It actually took about 7 bottles to finally blow it up. pistion 3 was completly gone.
Always just move to bigger and better. He now has a built 383 and i now have a built 408. Its just an excuse to mod so spray the **** out of it and what happens happens.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 07:13 AM
  #45  
driftpin's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: West Side of East Gish
Default

Originally Posted by skeels
Always just move to bigger and better. He now has a built 383 and I now have a built 408. Its just an excuse to mod so spray the **** out of it and what happens happens.
That is why I'm installing it the 150 shot. The problem is, my tuner is fantastic (he has a 800hp WS6 blown and sprayed) so I may have a tough time popping it. I just hope when it goes it's not catastrophic, like 01FbTaWs6.

That is the only way my wife will let me do rebuilds (without bitching incredibly) on my engines is if they blow. When they do I make the bottom end Freaking bullet proof. Once I rebuild this one I'll probably go with a D1 and the juice.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:47 AM
  #46  
jetblast's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: nj, edison
Default

Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
Thats the dumbest argument ever.

You don't use stock bearings on any PA car you don't use stock rods or pushrods or springs wither. doesn't mean nitrous beats them up.


We have not killed a bearing yet on any of our cars with well over 2000 nitrous passes over 3-4 cars and 7 years with nitrous ls1's. We do have enough pistons and rings burned up to fill a kitchen trash can. We fd those up learning nitrous and never hurt a bearing. looking back 4 years we had
some of the worst tuneups i can think of....
wow, talk about being honest with yourself. i gotta respect people like yourself. i know i have read some place that nitrous is hard on the bearings, but i gotta believe and respect guys like you over someone with not so much experience. it's like my job, the engineers have a lot of theoretical knwledge, and we always butt heads, in the end field expierience always wins.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:05 AM
  #47  
SREETRACEGUY's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Phiadelphia Ms. to Houston Tx.
Default

I've never blown one up however i did take my car all the way to speed inc. so they could its running now though
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:09 AM
  #48  
letsrunem's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: Waukesha, WI
Default

I blew my motor with spray. 125 dry shot powershifting 3rd, no revlimiter, didn't go into 3rd. Spun all the rod bearings, 4/5 main bearings.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:27 AM
  #49  
SMOKNSS's Avatar
11 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 879
Likes: 0
From: Alabama
Default

I couldn't ever get mine to give up. Went through a clutch,a six speed, and 2 axles. LOL. Ran my personal best with LT,ORY,GMMG, lid, ported TB, and 125 dry. Finally said to hell with it and took it apart so I could build it. LMAO!
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:50 AM
  #50  
PONTIAC SLP's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,591
Likes: 0
From: Middle east , Kuwait
Default

when my motor was stock i sprayed 300HP and destroyed it in 5 shoots lol , that was 3 years ago .
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:05 AM
  #51  
98Z28CobraKiller's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,783
Likes: 5
From: WPB, FL
Default

Nitrous does blow up motors just not directly. The tune being off can and will kill a motor regardless if it is because it has too much timing, too much fuel or not enough fuel. But all the above conditions can occur on a perfect tune. Because of the nature of a nitrous system, there's just alot of stuff that can go wrong. Clogged lines, electrical shorts, sticking noids, poor bottle pressure, excessive bottle pressure, and leaks are the things that will usually take out a nitrous combo with a good tune.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:20 AM
  #52  
ATVracr's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,297
Likes: 1
From: GB
Default

Bottom line if your not willing to blow your **** up dont spray it.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:53 AM.