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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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I wonder if I can set up a dry shot with a progresive controler, to give out tiny hits regularly?
I'm talking about a 20-30 hp shot operating only at WOT.
I'm cautious as I really don't want to have to spend out big time replacing the tranny or 10 bolt. Although I'd be happy to spend out doing the n2o setup correctly.

I realise I probably won't even feel the hit, but knowing there's another 20 -30 hp at my fingers would be nice.
Would I be pushing my luck running even a small shot like this on my stock trans with my planned mods ? (In sig)
If the n2o route is doable, I might give the gears and pulley a miss, what do you think?
It's a shame a new trans and 12 bolt would be mega money for me to swap in.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Why such a small shot? The stock trans (4L60-E) and rear end (10-bolt) are pretty weak but they have been know to take a healthy dose of N20. I'm hooking up a 100-Shot onto my WS.6, it is a 6-speed but I'm not worried about the rear end.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xXxSilveradoxXx
Why such a small shot? The stock trans (4L60-E) and rear end (10-bolt) are pretty weak but they have been know to take a healthy dose of N20. I'm hooking up a 100-Shot onto my WS.6, it is a 6-speed but I'm not worried about the rear end.
I know of several cars pushing alot of power through the 4l60e trans.....if it's built right you wouldn't have a problem with a larger shot.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Well my 4L60 broke while I was driving in traffic at 30mph. Not even when I was beating on it.

And that was a cat-back only formula doing a best of 109.2 in the 1/4.

They're hit or miss....Usually miss...
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lfsglass
I know of several cars pushing alot of power through the 4l60e trans.....if it's built right you wouldn't have a problem with a larger shot.
Larger cooler, Shift Kit and Servos then forget about the 4L60-E and start thinking about that 10-Bolt.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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I'd spray a 50 shot dry on it if you're really worried. Thats not enough to break anything, super easy to setup, and if you're really worried throw a timing tuner on it and delay the hit to ease the launch. You could have it set to come on .3-.5 seconds out, and spray from 3000-6000 and you'd damn near have to try and hurt that car with that setup (with a good tune, of course). If it breaks the trans or rear, it was gonna happen real soon anyway.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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i say get a gear lock out system and shoot 100 starting in second and dont look back.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:54 AM
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I hear what you guys are saying. It's just I've asked simular questions on here in the past, and the general concenus is spray will probably kill the trans.

Agreed, it may last with a big shot, but I also hear they can break pretty easy too, and I could really do without having to dump 2-2.5k into my tranny.

The trans cooler looks easyish to install, so I would get one of those. I hoped my luck would hold out if I keep the shot small and gentle, instead of a sudden shock with a bigger hit.

That's why I'm shying away from a TC too, as bets are it would kill the trans.
Just hoping a drip fed n2o shot would be gentle enough to keep my trans alive.

Can a n2o system be set up to progresively feed smaller 20-30hp dry shots??

p.s I like the idea of spraying little and often all day, instead of a few bigger hits
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Honestly, if your so worried about breaking stuff and the cash situation, this may not be the hobby for you

That said, I wouldn't even bother with a 20-30 shot. Too much time effort and money for the same hp jump a set of LT's would give
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Originally Posted by taws6
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I wonder if I can set up a dry shot with a progresive controler, to give out tiny hits regularly?
I'm talking about a 20-30 hp shot operating only at WOT.
I'm cautious as I really don't want to have to spend out big time replacing the tranny or 10 bolt. Although I'd be happy to spend out doing the n2o setup correctly.

I realise I probably won't even feel the hit, but knowing there's another 20 -30 hp at my fingers would be nice.
Would I be pushing my luck running even a small shot like this on my stock trans with my planned mods ? (In sig)
If the n2o route is doable, I might give the gears and pulley a miss, what do you think?
It's a shame a new trans and 12 bolt would be mega money for me to swap in.

Thanks for the advise
That's what everyone says when they're about to come over to the dark side. Mine was " oh, I'll hit it with a 75 shot to run 7's at the track" Now I'm setup for 350+. Best of luck to you, and be ready for some substance abuse counseling. You're gonna need it.
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My trans went out the first time I sprayed at the track but it had around 127k miles on the stocker when it started slippin
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
That's what everyone says when they're about to come over to the dark side. Mine was " oh, I'll hit it with a 75 shot to run 7's at the track" Now I'm setup for 350+. Best of luck to you, and be ready for some substance abuse counseling. You're gonna need it.
i'm already hooked and I've never sprayed before in my life. I was only planning of shooting about 100 now guys are talking about they spray 175 and 200 on a stock bottom end.

Now it's like fighting temptations.........
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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i had 100 dry shot on my car it when stock trans and rear end and it ran 7.00s in the 1/8mile
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why progress such a small shot just put a small jet in for what ever you want and turn it on when you need.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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.026 = 25rwhp .028= 30 rwhp .030=35rwhp
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
That's what everyone says when they're about to come over to the dark side. Mine was " oh, I'll hit it with a 75 shot to run 7's at the track" Now I'm setup for 350+. Best of luck to you, and be ready for some substance abuse counseling. You're gonna need it.
There is the quote of the day!

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That said, I wouldn't even bother with a 20-30 shot. Too much time effort and money for the same hp jump a set of LT's would give
I would have to agree with this right here. I know you only want 20-30 RWHP and with those levels you would be better off getting something like an LS6 Cam and a Tune. You could easily reach those numbers with those two mods and you wouldn't need to keep filling the a nitrous tank. Plus, the cam and tune would probably run you about the same amount of money as the N2O system.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Maybe 1 day I will want to spray bigger shots, but I'll have to accept I may break stuff if I do. I'm not into drag racing, so the urge to spray bigger isn't really there.
I know these engine can take a good amout of spray, but it seems other things break easier.

I can't just swap the cam, as I'd need a stall first, and that seems even more likely to break my tranny than the progresive n2o.
Yes LT would be more worth while, and I'm planning to add them first . I'm just looking for other ways add hp if I want it.

FI = too much $$$ + likely to break trans
H/C/TC = too complicated to install and likely to break trans
Bolt ons= already done or planning to do

Plus, if I want to spray bigger shots, the n2o is already set up....
I'll just have to be prepare to dump $$$ into my trans if it breaks

.026 = 25rwhp .028= 30 rwhp .030=35rwhp
That sounds like the size of jetting for the smaller size shots I'm considering.
Great, so I guess the smaller shots are possable.

Thanks for the all the input...

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Buy a freakin set of headers first. Then you'll have 25-30 rwhp without having to flip a switch. You will also see better gains when you do put the sauce on it.
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its a 4l60 so its not if it'll blow its when it'll blow
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I hope to install headers before the end of the year.....

its not if it'll blow its when it'll blow
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