dry nitrous tuning
Please dont take this the wrong way, as I'm VERY impressed with the knowledge you guys have when it comes to tuning and EFILive/HPTuners. And your understanding of all things nitrous related.
My question is. While using resistors or diodes or what ever, or wiring into the car's PCM, just to tune for the nitrous hit - isnt it easier to just use the HSW Interface? Plug it in - hook up a couple wires to your controller, and you're done... Seems easy to me... But I'm a noob, so I'm still learning...
Thanks
My question is. While using resistors or diodes or what ever, or wiring into the car's PCM, just to tune for the nitrous hit - isnt it easier to just use the HSW Interface? Plug it in - hook up a couple wires to your controller, and you're done... Seems easy to me... But I'm a noob, so I'm still learning...
Thanks
Please dont take this the wrong way, as I'm VERY impressed with the knowledge you guys have when it comes to tuning and EFILive/HPTuners. And your understanding of all things nitrous related.
My question is. While using resistors or diodes or what ever, or wiring into the car's PCM, just to tune for the nitrous hit - isnt it easier to just use the HSW Interface? Plug it in - hook up a couple wires to your controller, and you're done... Seems easy to me... But I'm a noob, so I'm still learning...
Thanks
My question is. While using resistors or diodes or what ever, or wiring into the car's PCM, just to tune for the nitrous hit - isnt it easier to just use the HSW Interface? Plug it in - hook up a couple wires to your controller, and you're done... Seems easy to me... But I'm a noob, so I'm still learning...
Thanks
I like to keep things as simple as possible and still do it safely. I have hade efi live and hpt tuners for years before the interface came out. I can do COS#5 for less than $10 using the stock pcm vs buying another box to hook up. Its only one wire to add and a switch. I think the stock pcm is more reliable than any after market box add on.
I got some heads up information today regarding the HP Tuner software. It seems they are hot on the heels of EFI Live Cos 5. I have the full information coming, but from what I know presently, things are looking real good concerning the Dry tuning and the Tuner program (and wet hits too). This person is setting up and tuning a dry hit, and I have been helping where I could, but he may be taking me to school, LOL. Here is a small quote from a rather long E-Mail, just for insight:
I recently got the advanced version of the Tunning School program for HP Tuners and they show how to tune wet and dry and even how to set up HP Tuners as a sophisticated nitrous controller with WB AFR cut out!! Very sweet!
Thanks guys.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Thanks guys.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Yeah? I think I've heard of him too... He has a blue convertible, right???
On another forum, he says he's from my home state. On this one he is out swimming in the gulf or something...
I plan on sending a PM to him sometime soon...
On another forum, he says he's from my home state. On this one he is out swimming in the gulf or something...
I plan on sending a PM to him sometime soon...
thats right, he resides in Maine and works in the Gulf of Mexico, I think he plans on running an discount to Mainers/New Englanders end of Jan when he is home. Something bout him needing $ for a new shortblock for that Vert ???On the LC-1 side, I been through two O2 sensors, seem to get about 7-10 k miles or so out of the two I have replaced.
7-10,000 miles?
That's a year for me... Is there one of better quality that will last longer?
I have the rear O2 bungs plugged. Can I just pull the plug and install it there?
I'm using Kooks headers w/ X-pipe and no cats.
That's a year for me... Is there one of better quality that will last longer?
I have the rear O2 bungs plugged. Can I just pull the plug and install it there?
I'm using Kooks headers w/ X-pipe and no cats.
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considering i how much unburnt fuel my cam dumps at idle,30,000 plus average miles on a sensor is good(most of the time i never really let the sensor heat up,just fired up the car)...plus i ran several gallons of leaded here and there along with E85 for a while...
i did have both prior sensors in the front o2 holes so maybe that shortened the life of them some...this newest o2 sensor i put further back where the rear o2's sat...
i did have both prior sensors in the front o2 holes so maybe that shortened the life of them some...this newest o2 sensor i put further back where the rear o2's sat...
Thanks guys.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Nice info to know that's for sure.
I am using the interface with the progressive Microedge+ controller.
I plan to put an A/F wide band guage in the car somewhere too. I wish they were'nt so expensive though. Not sure where I'm going to mount it either. Not crazy about the A-pillar pods set-up... I'd like it to be a bit more stealthy install.
Robert
well, I did not know that... Thanks
I new it had a display, but I didnt know it would display that info... Makes sense that it would though, as A/F is kinda important...
I'm looking forward to getting this stuff all hooked up.
I new it had a display, but I didnt know it would display that info... Makes sense that it would though, as A/F is kinda important...
I'm looking forward to getting this stuff all hooked up.
Alot can be done to tune dry nitrous with HP Tuners pro since it has out put capability.
With a wideband showing you have a good base tune with no kr and good afr you can set the PE delay rpm to 0.
You can adjust things like the PE rate up, adjust hot power enrichment enable TPS and adjust the EQ ratio vs RPM for the rpm ranges you want.
You can make a delivered torque histogram to see if your making progress during logging runs.
With the Pro it has outputs which you can set up as a window switch and since your using a WB you can set up safety triggers to shut down nitrous based on AFR, KR, TPS as examples. Actually with some thought you can set up as sophisticated a system as you would like.
You can tune your timing until its perfect N/A and the same for nitrous injected. Factory ECM has a table to pull timing if the engine is overheating, some people use a relay to access that table to pull the timing necessary under nitrous so its all in one tune.
With HP Tuners you could also use methanol or water/methanol injection and tune it so you do not need to pull as much timing, and with the afr and kr features in the HPT output as shutdown triggeres it gives the set up some safety layers.
I would think one would want to log anytime you run nitrous and with HPT and WB you can have all in one!
Just another system to be considered.
BTW the Tunning School has a real good study at home course I took on HP Tuners and they teach a lot of this.
hope this helps
Carlos
With a wideband showing you have a good base tune with no kr and good afr you can set the PE delay rpm to 0.
You can adjust things like the PE rate up, adjust hot power enrichment enable TPS and adjust the EQ ratio vs RPM for the rpm ranges you want.
You can make a delivered torque histogram to see if your making progress during logging runs.
With the Pro it has outputs which you can set up as a window switch and since your using a WB you can set up safety triggers to shut down nitrous based on AFR, KR, TPS as examples. Actually with some thought you can set up as sophisticated a system as you would like.
You can tune your timing until its perfect N/A and the same for nitrous injected. Factory ECM has a table to pull timing if the engine is overheating, some people use a relay to access that table to pull the timing necessary under nitrous so its all in one tune.
With HP Tuners you could also use methanol or water/methanol injection and tune it so you do not need to pull as much timing, and with the afr and kr features in the HPT output as shutdown triggeres it gives the set up some safety layers.
I would think one would want to log anytime you run nitrous and with HPT and WB you can have all in one!
Just another system to be considered.
BTW the Tunning School has a real good study at home course I took on HP Tuners and they teach a lot of this.
hope this helps
Carlos
