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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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You have a good point I never thought about running a 370 instead of a 408. I've seen what you guys do with your car and I would definitely be interested in you doing my setup. You think ET 245's would work good with 370ci. I know its different than a street motor because it more compression and a higher rpm range but that seems like alot of head.



How do you set the stock ecu up to work with a carb?
Yes they will work great. If you don't already have an intake you could go l92 style et's or ls7's with a gmpp etc. lots of choices.

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Is there a website that sells ET performance heads or something like that where I can go see specs or prices. It seems like ET's website hasn't been updated in years.

I've thought about a GMPP intake but I heard they make less power than a Super Victor, but I'm not sure if they make super vics for rectangle port heads.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
A stock motor isn't gonna get you where you want to be, but it will be a starting point.

A1000 is a high pressure pump I thought, and if you're going carb you want low pressure, low pressure definintely for the nitrous system, either that or you'll be stuck running such a smalll jet, that you'll have alot of problems with them getting clogged, melting parts, etc.

That's why the low psi is used, so the jets are bigger and you don't have to worry about one tiny spec getting in there and melting a piston down.
I was reading in summit that you can use the A1000 with a carb, I guess the regulator slows down the pressure on the line. Atleast I think thats how it works. Right now the A1000 would be overkill but I wanted to just buy a pump 1 time and not have to upgrade when the I start hitting it with the juice.

And I was just gonna use the stock motor pretty much as a donor. I would use the block, covers, sensors, coil packs, and maybe crank in the new build. I figured I could get a running condition motor for about 1K, I would come out better than buying a new block and having to then go back and buy all the cover and sensors and so on separate. I know from reading other threads that those are the things that you dont budget for that make engine builds more expensive than what you planned them.
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Stock motor for that use, would be a good start for sure.

You probably can use an A1000 that way, I'd just look at all the options. When it comes to nitrous, a seperate fuel system IMO, is a better deal. Seperate pump that comes on when you arm the system, etc. Just the way most people go, ya don't have to do it that way, but for the most part it's the genaral setup.
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Is there a website that sells ET performance heads or something like that where I can go see specs or prices. It seems like ET's website hasn't been updated in years.

I've thought about a GMPP intake but I heard they make less power than a Super Victor, but I'm not sure if they make super vics for rectangle port heads.
http://www.perf-induction.com/ Cary used to run et's ls1 stuff. et closed down and Cary bought there lsx program. he has made some sick improvments . I talk to cary at least once a week. I can help you out.

as for the intake. the gmpp=vic jr. the super is bigger and for the most part better but it don't fit well on a stock cowl. if you are willing to cut the super vic is the way to go.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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I was reading in summit that you can use the A1000 with a carb, I guess the regulator slows down the pressure on the line. Atleast I think thats how it works. Right now the A1000 would be overkill but I wanted to just buy a pump 1 time and not have to upgrade when the I start hitting it with the juice.

And I was just gonna use the stock motor pretty much as a donor. I would use the block, covers, sensors, coil packs, and maybe crank in the new build. I figured I could get a running condition motor for about 1K, I would come out better than buying a new block and having to then go back and buy all the cover and sensors and so on separate. I know from reading other threads that those are the things that you dont budget for that make engine builds more expensive than what you planned them.
I got a stock 6.0L out of an 03 complete intake to oil pan sensors covers etc. bad rod bearing but the crank is good. rods and pistons later and she will take 800rwhp...
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
A stock motor isn't gonna get you where you want to be, but it will be a starting point.

A1000 is a high pressure pump I thought, and if you're going carb you want low pressure, low pressure definintely for the nitrous system, either that or you'll be stuck running such a smalll jet, that you'll have alot of problems with them getting clogged, melting parts, etc.

That's why the low psi is used, so the jets are bigger and you don't have to worry about one tiny spec getting in there and melting a piston down.
The pump is only going to build as much pressure as the regulator will let it.

I'm running an in-line Walbro 255 on my carb'd setup at 8psi. It does great, been like that for a few years now.
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Makes sense... I just usually hear of the a1000's used in efi applications.

It obviously works, your times are pretty damn good for a stock CI nitrous car
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I was thinking I would like to run a solid roller for the ability to turn 8K plus rpm's but I also know it cost money to be able to do that. For guys that have done it or priced what it takes to do it whats needed to do the change? I know you need the roller rockers thats a given anyway, I also know you need solid lifters, I think you need to get the heads cut to accept different springs, but I bet there's more that I dont know.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Makes sense... I just usually hear of the a1000's used in efi applications.

It obviously works, your times are pretty damn good for a stock CI nitrous car
Thanks, hopefully the times will get quite a bit better next spring.

I wasn't aware that you could use those style pumps on carb'd setups either until a couple of years ago. Pretty cheap way to get a mean pump for a carb'd setup.
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absolutely.

You junk's faster then my 402 is LOL, you're probably running over double the nitrous too... but hey I'm the wimp that won't hit my junk hard
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No nitrous guys with solid roller experience
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I was thinking I would like to run a solid roller for the ability to turn 8K plus rpm's but I also know it cost money to be able to do that. For guys that have done it or priced what it takes to do it whats needed to do the change? I know you need the roller rockers thats a given anyway, I also know you need solid lifters, I think you need to get the heads cut to accept different springs, but I bet there's more that I dont know.
Rockers , push rods, springs & retainers, lifters, Cam.

Bout $3K
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Machine work to the block too, depending on what you do for a lifter.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Machine work to the block too, depending on what you do for a lifter.
Morrell drop ins work great.
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They make one that doesn't require any machine work at all? That's good to know... I thought all the solid roller lifters out there required some type of machine work. What are they good for lift wise/base circle wise before you start running into issues, or are they substantially longer to allow a little more tolerance in both departments?
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They make one that doesn't require any machine work at all? That's good to know... I thought all the solid roller lifters out there required some type of machine work. What are they good for lift wise/base circle wise before you start running into issues, or are they substantially longer to allow a little more tolerance in both departments?

Put them right in the stock lifter cups.

Seemed about the same size. We had std. size cam core with over 900 lift.
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I didn't think there was enough meat on everything to get that much

Did you leave a 1.7 rocker on it, or go up on the ratio too, regardless, that's alot for the stock cam core dia.

I'll stick with my slow class, I can get away with all the cheap parts for that and have no problems. At least for a while.
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Morrell drop ins work great.
Spend the money and go with jessels. when you get past a certin lift the morrells will have a oil presure issue.... trust me.... PM me for any question
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Spend the money and go with jessels. when you get past a certin lift the morrells will have a oil presure issue.... trust me.... PM me for any question
LOL. no we will stay with the morells. 9000 rpm shifts 0 oil pressure issues not 1 issu threw 2 season( racing 3-4 days per month). worked perfect. like atv said 940 lift on the intake with a 1.85 rocker and 870 or so exhaust.
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