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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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its hard as hell to find a place to get bottles filled around here

ive heard from a reliable source (plus reading on here) that freeze filling works great

mother bottle to ball valve to filter to bottle...digital scale...

now you have to freeze bottle, and heat up mother bottle...propane heater to get pressure up on mother bottle...

i was told 160* using laser on mother bottle is around 1800-2000psi so itll suck right in to small bottle

sound right?

i could save SO much $
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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no need to heat the mother bottle really...
or use the ball valve...

i just have the mother, to a filter, to the 10lb ones. freeze the small one and open both valves, and there ya go!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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doesnt sound dangerous
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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y not just buy a nitrous filling station?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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y not just buy a nitrous filling station?
Because they are expensive....
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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not that expensive if you ask me, if you spray enough or have someone that will split it with you, u can make that investment back in no time saving half price on every bottle of nitrous at least.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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Syphoning sucks. I used to have to get my bottle filled that way and it is a pain in the ***! You don't have to freeze it either the refridgerator gets it cold enough. But that means people who want to get filled up either clear out half there food(did this a time or two and the old lady wasn't happy) or drop it off and wait a few hours for you to cool and fill the bottle. Not worth it in my opinion. There are 2 or 3 other shops around here plus at the track that I can get filled and they all have pumps.

Syphoning works but more hassle then it is worth in my opinon.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by custm2500
There are 2 or 3 other shops around here plus at the track that I can get filled and they all have pumps.
That's the issue, finding a dealer for nitrous around HERE is like finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

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not that expensive if you ask me, if you spray enough or have someone that will split it with you, u can make that investment back in no time saving half price on every bottle of nitrous at least.
Why don't you and Matt go halves on a setup or get Jerry to buy in too since he's the one using all the juice? I'd just get an old junk freezer from CL or something and use the syphon deal though.

Larry
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Buying nitrous in bulk around here isnt some $2/lb deal either. I can hardly find it under $4.

I have an unused freezer and researched all pricing. Just trying to get everything squared away with XMAS before I make any purchases. Plus I need to confirm pricing on the nitrous.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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We get our mother bottles from Valley gas.
Freeze fill all our stuff, just becareful not to overfill them.
Put 9lbs in not 11. dont ask why just do it.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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We get our mother bottles from Valley gas.
Freeze fill all our stuff, just becareful not to overfill them.
Put 9lbs in not 11. dont ask why just do it.
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also, do you have to heat up mother bottle? or just freeze smaller one?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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ive never heated up my mother bottle and iy has alway sworked great for me. maybe when the mother starts getting low, you have to freeze the smaller one twice to get the full 9 or 10 lbs. but i dont like the idea of heating the mother bottle
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Originally Posted by sprayedenali
ive never heated up my mother bottle and iy has alway sworked great for me. maybe when the mother starts getting low, you have to freeze the smaller one twice to get the full 9 or 10 lbs. but i dont like the idea of heating the mother bottle
What he said.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Freeze fill all our stuff, just becareful not to overfill them.
Put 9lbs in not 11. dont ask why just do it.
That's good advice right there. I have even refilled a bottle or two at the track with a 5 gallon bucket, bag of ice, and some water.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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I gravity (freeze) fill my bottles. Works great. I do not heat up the mother bottle. Do not need a pump. I can get a little over 10 lbs in a bottle but like stated...DON'T DO THAT!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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I have a pump station and still freeze my bottles when I can. They fill so much faster that way. You dont have to freeze them either, you can use a 5 gallon bucket and ice if you dont a freezer to use, ice is cheap. Like said before you dont have to heat your mother bottle.
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I had a fill station and sold it because I wasn't selling any nitrous but now regret it.

I always froze the bottles because it made it soo much easier to fill them, even with the pump.

I may get back into filling bottles, but this time I am going to gravity feed them. No need to heat the mother bottle, just make sure the smaller bottle is COLD.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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you guys using a ball valve between bottles? or just twisting them open -- dont wanna over fill!
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NOTFAST
you guys using a ball valve between bottles? or just twisting them open -- dont wanna over fill!
Use a ball valve and put it at the end of your supply line closest to the smaller bottle. If not, everytime you shut both bottles off, you are going to waste the nitrous in the line when you disconnect it.
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I use a ball valve and a filter. Both are a must IMO.
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