What can i spray safely?
What can i spray safely? I have a 1999 ss, Has stock ls1 bottom end, with tsp cam 232/234 .598/.598 on a 113lsa., has tsp stage 2.5 truck heads and tsp double valve springs, has a fast 92mm intake, and nick williams 92mm throttle body, and a 85mm SLP maf made 441/391
what is safe to spray? not interested in pushing the motor to its limits, just looking for some extra go go juice for a little more fun, was thinking a 150 wet shot, is this too much for my stock bottom end?
Also, should i get a plate or a direct port setup?
what is safe to spray? not interested in pushing the motor to its limits, just looking for some extra go go juice for a little more fun, was thinking a 150 wet shot, is this too much for my stock bottom end?
Also, should i get a plate or a direct port setup?
Well, assuming you have you have an aftermarket fuel pump, a 150 shot will be ok on the stock bottom end. There are guys here shooting 175,200 and even 250 shots on stock bottom ends, but with good tuning of course. A 150 will do you just fine though. Get a plate system, its all you are going to need for a 150 shot. A direct port would be more for a 250 shot to have more tunability
Just get a NitrousOutlet plate kit you can do a 150 shot safe as long as you pull your timming and run #7 colder plugs. You will be fine I would also get a good nitrous controller to. If you need any help or question pm me.
You question #2 you do not need a DP kit. unless you spray over 200.
You question #2 you do not need a DP kit. unless you spray over 200.
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as stated above first thing needed if you dont already ahve one would be to upgrade the fuel pump. If you have upgraded the pump then i suggest go no higher than 150hp on the stock internals. People have gone over that but you'll be playing with fire. If you dont plan on going over 200hp as dnkynrbk said then then our plate would suite your needs to a T.
Give me a shout here at the shop and we can go over some setups with you like.
Give me a shout here at the shop and we can go over some setups with you like.
I have a 232/238 cam and TSP stage 2.5 5.3 heads..My buddy is hooking up Daves 90mm plate..Gonna hit it with a 100 shot..Would do more but with 5c (4400) stall it would blow through some..Mya up it to a 125 bu def think 100 shot will be plenty ontop what I have now
I'm going to make a sticky on this and put it at the top of the forum, hopefully within the next day.
It's not a nitrous HP level that you can spray, it's more a total rwhp level that a stock shortblock with nitrous can handle. Add power with a cam and heads, it decreases the nitrous you can spray it with because you're already up on the power level.
Save level, I repeat a SAFE level, would be around the 500 to 525 rwhp range. You start getting over 525 and piston life, is going to be short.
Even at 525, you better have a good tuneup in there, too rich, too lean, ir too much timing and it's NOT gonna live very long.
For the OP, I wouldn't put more then a 100 to it, 125 MAX, make SURE you have a #7, or a #8 plug in there, timing I'd keep LOW, probably around the 16 to 18 degree mark TOPS and even that will probably be too much unless you put some race fuel in the tank, on pump, I'd have it down around 13 to 14.
Please note, I air on the side of caution. I will NOT tell someone to do something that is on the ragged edge, it will most likly be able to handle a little more, but I'll leave that to the car owner to decide if he wants to push it.
And, lastly, MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR PLUGS!! Don't just go by a dyno a/f or any of that nonsense, the car NEEDS A #7 or #8, and you MUST READ THEM, REGULARLY!!!
It's not a nitrous HP level that you can spray, it's more a total rwhp level that a stock shortblock with nitrous can handle. Add power with a cam and heads, it decreases the nitrous you can spray it with because you're already up on the power level.
Save level, I repeat a SAFE level, would be around the 500 to 525 rwhp range. You start getting over 525 and piston life, is going to be short.
Even at 525, you better have a good tuneup in there, too rich, too lean, ir too much timing and it's NOT gonna live very long.
For the OP, I wouldn't put more then a 100 to it, 125 MAX, make SURE you have a #7, or a #8 plug in there, timing I'd keep LOW, probably around the 16 to 18 degree mark TOPS and even that will probably be too much unless you put some race fuel in the tank, on pump, I'd have it down around 13 to 14.
Please note, I air on the side of caution. I will NOT tell someone to do something that is on the ragged edge, it will most likly be able to handle a little more, but I'll leave that to the car owner to decide if he wants to push it.
And, lastly, MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR PLUGS!! Don't just go by a dyno a/f or any of that nonsense, the car NEEDS A #7 or #8, and you MUST READ THEM, REGULARLY!!!
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I'm going to make a sticky on this and put it at the top of the forum, hopefully within the next day.
It's not a nitrous HP level that you can spray, it's more a total rwhp level that a stock shortblock with nitrous can handle. Add power with a cam and heads, it decreases the nitrous you can spray it with because you're already up on the power level.
Save level, I repeat a SAFE level, would be around the 500 to 525 rwhp range. You start getting over 525 and piston life, is going to be short.
Even at 525, you better have a good tuneup in there, too rich, too lean, ir too much timing and it's NOT gonna live very long.
For the OP, I wouldn't put more then a 100 to it, 125 MAX, make SURE you have a #7, or a #8 plug in there, timing I'd keep LOW, probably around the 16 to 18 degree mark TOPS and even that will probably be too much unless you put some race fuel in the tank, on pump, I'd have it down around 13 to 14.
Please note, I air on the side of caution. I will NOT tell someone to do something that is on the ragged edge, it will most likly be able to handle a little more, but I'll leave that to the car owner to decide if he wants to push it.
And, lastly, MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR PLUGS!! Don't just go by a dyno a/f or any of that nonsense, the car NEEDS A #7 or #8, and you MUST READ THEM, REGULARLY!!!
It's not a nitrous HP level that you can spray, it's more a total rwhp level that a stock shortblock with nitrous can handle. Add power with a cam and heads, it decreases the nitrous you can spray it with because you're already up on the power level.
Save level, I repeat a SAFE level, would be around the 500 to 525 rwhp range. You start getting over 525 and piston life, is going to be short.
Even at 525, you better have a good tuneup in there, too rich, too lean, ir too much timing and it's NOT gonna live very long.
For the OP, I wouldn't put more then a 100 to it, 125 MAX, make SURE you have a #7, or a #8 plug in there, timing I'd keep LOW, probably around the 16 to 18 degree mark TOPS and even that will probably be too much unless you put some race fuel in the tank, on pump, I'd have it down around 13 to 14.
Please note, I air on the side of caution. I will NOT tell someone to do something that is on the ragged edge, it will most likly be able to handle a little more, but I'll leave that to the car owner to decide if he wants to push it.
And, lastly, MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR PLUGS!! Don't just go by a dyno a/f or any of that nonsense, the car NEEDS A #7 or #8, and you MUST READ THEM, REGULARLY!!!
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Do you really have to pull that much timing for an 100 shot to be safe?Damn I was looking to get a plate kit for my 5.3 S10 but now I'm not so sure!!I think I need to do some more reading and talking to a few more people!Mike
The point isn;t pulling that much timing for a 100 shot , but it is the point of where the engine was before the 100 shot came into play. They have high horse stock bottem end engines they are wanting to spray.