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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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i am wanting to spray a max of 200 hp either through two foggers or plate or direct port. i am also wanting to have two stages, one on a switch and the other on a button. i have a walbro 255 and a bbk ssi intake so could i spray a 50 or 75 on the switch and then grab a 150 or a 125. can i do this and be safe. i hope i can because i already have everything to do so
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Get the Nitro Daves 2 stage plate if you are only going to shoot a 200 maximum. When you say one on a switch and another on a button, are you referring to one on a WOT switch on the pedal and another on a button in the car? Make sure you pull enough timing to shoot that 200 shot.
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Yes that's correct, does anyone else have an opinion. If not what would be the best way to split up the two stages and still achieve my 200 horse shot through two foggers and be safe on my bbk intake.
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Get a dual stage controller and wire you second stage into a push button. Then keep both stages armed all the time, and the second stage will only spray when you have the button down.

Split your 200 up however you want based on what your trying to do. If you are traction limited maybe make your first stage 50 or 75 so that you can spray it in first gear. If you want to do a lot of roll racing and have a little extra hp just incase make your first stage the big one 125 to 150.

If it were me I wouldn't spray 200 through a nozzle, I would look into a dual stage plate.
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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For 200 and dual staged our plate is pretty hard to beat. I have my car wired so that both stages go through the controller but the button has to be pressed in order for the second stage to work.

This gives me the ability to program both stages to work but I can choose on the fly when or if to activate the second stage.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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For 200 and dual staged our plate is pretty hard to beat. I have my car wired so that both stages go through the controller but the button has to be pressed in order for the second stage to work.

This gives me the ability to program both stages to work but I can choose on the fly when or if to activate the second stage.
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i was just worried about the fuel puddling in the intake, what would a plate like that cost and whats the part number, would the plate be able to handle a 250 shot?
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The guys that talk about fuel puddling have no idea what they are talking about. Think about it like this.. If fuel puddling was an issue why does whipple have injectors mounted infront of the throttle body to inject extra needed fuel?

The mixture is in and out in a split second. They key is tune up. Now with every intake there is a point of delivery issue. The LSX intake design works pretty good with a wet system.

We have used our plate for 250 shots on more cars than I can count.
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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That's very interesting I have the 102 plate from nitrous outlet and was told by my local shop dont spray over 200 off the plate. Go direct port. I also have the fast 102 intake
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ya over 200 on the plate sounds like a no no to me
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
The guys that talk about fuel puddling have no idea what they are talking about. Think about it like this.. If fuel puddling was an issue why does whipple have injectors mounted infront of the throttle body to inject extra needed fuel?

The mixture is in and out in a split second. They key is tune up. Now with every intake there is a point of delivery issue. The LSX intake design works pretty good with a wet system.

We have used our plate for 250 shots on more cars than I can count.

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I'm with Dave here ... 250 is no problem !!
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Well what would be a safe limit off dave's plate? Or two stage plate?
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More than most guys tuning ability would be my best guess.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
More than most guys tuning ability would be my best guess.
Always comes back on the tune
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
More than most guys tuning ability would be my best guess.
Yup and I fell in that category 18 months ago.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Yup and I fell in that category 18 months ago.
It happens.

Sometimes we have to learn stuff the hard way.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
It happens.

Sometimes we have to learn stuff the expensive way.
Fixed..
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Stupid hurts !!
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
Fixed..
I was going to say that when ATV posted "the hard way" but I said nah, Ill post later I'm busy right now. Then you go and post it Shiz.

I might not be as high dollar as you two, but I'm 5 grand in and the short block is not even assembled yet. Still got about another 5-7 grand to go and thats just an estimate, so it can only go higher.
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I call it the price of tuition! lol Knowledge comes with experience.. Experience comes with time.

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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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LOL. also like the "fogger or DP" title.
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