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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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I have been looking at a few plate systems to run on my carb ls1. I like the zex plate the best. What are you guys opinion on any of the plate systems out there. I plan on running a 150 shot.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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What intake are you running on the car?

What are the future plans on the car? Any plans for big cubes or a forged bottom end?

The carb style intakes on ls1 cars are not an easy intake to set a plate on and just go. They do need to be test fired and distribution checked before you pill it and let it eat on the car. I would also make sure I pulled EVERY plug on several runs to make sure that the distribution is good before adding jet and moving along in the tune up. This is not a bias toward anyone as they ALL need to be checked in my opinion.

Many plates also have a hang over and do not match the flange surface as well as I would like so they cut into the intake path some.

If you have the option of send us your intake, we are big on doing custom matched spray bars to the intake. This allows us to get the distribution right on YOUR car. This is very good solution for a lot of applications based on the added hood clearance and easy access to the fittings for jet changes. This also opens the option of swapping out any spacer ( Either thickness or possible a HVH style spacer) you choose for your combination.

Here is a some examples to check out:

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/installs/install.asp?id=17
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 06:13 AM
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I am using the vic jr intake. Hood clearance will not be an issue. I will have a forged bottom end.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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I've talked to NO about this briefly. I'm currently using the zex plate with no problems. Distribution looks good upto a .072 pill for me. Stock out of the box plate and the intake had about 3/16 milled off the carb flange by the previous owner (stock out of the box other than that).

Anyway, they said they started to see distribution problems right around my nitrous level. They said something about devoting some energy to creating their own carb plate, but it seems like they've kept their efforts to the spray bars.

All of that being said, I'll probably ship my intake to them before long to have them work their magic on it. Just understand that the Zex plate CAN work. It's obviously not the best option (no plate is) but if you watch what it's doing you can get good results.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 96 lss-10
I am using the vic jr intake. Hood clearance will not be an issue. I will have a forged bottom end.
If you have a forged bottom end in the car I would just go ahead and send us the intake for spray bars. This will allow you to spray larger shots without worry if you decide to. We all eventually want more and its nice to not spend money twice.



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I've talked to NO about this briefly. I'm currently using the zex plate with no problems. Distribution looks good upto a .072 pill for me. Stock out of the box plate and the intake had about 3/16 milled off the carb flange by the previous owner (stock out of the box other than that).

Anyway, they said they started to see distribution problems right around my nitrous level. They said something about devoting some energy to creating their own carb plate, but it seems like they've kept their efforts to the spray bars.

All of that being said, I'll probably ship my intake to them before long to have them work their magic on it. Just understand that the Zex plate CAN work. It's obviously not the best option (no plate is) but if you watch what it's doing you can get good results.
Perfect example. Had the plate and it worked well on a smaller shot. But...

You always up the jets and then you will want the spray bars.

Thanks for adding your experience ryarbrough. Did you ever test fire the plate through the intake previous to putting on the car?

Graham @ N20
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Zex plate is nice for upto a 200-250. Any higher the best Ive experienced is a cross bar. Definately invest in getting it flowed. Ive got a zex plate 4150 if interested.
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Originally Posted by graham@nitrousoutlet
Thanks for adding your experience ryarbrough. Did you ever test fire the plate through the intake previous to putting on the car?
I tested it outside the car and everything looked pretty good upto an .082 jet. After that, it seemed like the inside cylinders were getting more nitrous than the four corners. It wasn't HORRIBLE, but it's not something I'd want to go into without knowledge that it was happening. I probably will stay at a .078 or .082 this year, but only because alot of the classes my car fits into are limited by those jets.

If the car still needs more oomph, I'll do something else with the intake.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ryarbrough
I tested it outside the car and everything looked pretty good upto an .082 jet. After that, it seemed like the inside cylinders were getting more nitrous than the four corners. It wasn't HORRIBLE, but it's not something I'd want to go into without knowledge that it was happening. I probably will stay at a .078 or .082 this year, but only because alot of the classes my car fits into are limited by those jets.

If the car still needs more oomph, I'll do something else with the intake.
Cool that it ran that large of jet. That is the trend we see as well tho one the larger jet sizes.

Glad to see some posting of ACTUAL results from a knowledgeable guy.

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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 06:49 AM
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How much will is cost to get the bar installed. I was looking to use 150 shot.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 96 lss-10
How much will is cost to get the bar installed. I was looking to use 150 shot.
For just the spray bars installed is $275. They are custom flowed to your intake and will have great distribution. They will handle 300hp worth flawlessly.

If you will need other components I ship them back with the intake. ( fittings, jets, pressure gauge)

If you would like to give me a call with any more questions im happy to go over the setup and pro's and con's with you.

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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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The statement Graham made about the plate being smaller than the intake it's 100% correct. The plenum opening on my GMPP intake it right at 100mm. Most plates I have seen are around 90mm +/- a few mm. I was looking at finding the right plate until I came across the spray bars. That's what I'll be going with to complement my direct port >:-)
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
The statement Graham made about the plate being smaller than the intake it's 100% correct. The plenum opening on my GMPP intake it right at 100mm. Most plates I have seen are around 90mm +/- a few mm. I was looking at finding the right plate until I came across the spray bars. That's what I'll be going with to complement my direct port >:-)
Its hard to get right for sure. The thing about the spray bars is they are just such a simple and nice option for so many users. No added height, flowed on YOUR intake, simple jet changes, clean looking, SIMPLE. I have considered the move to a Vic jr and without question on my LS this is what I would run. I will not have the drivetrain to support a shot large enough to justify a direct port so it makes the spray bars a very clean option.

Did I mention simple?

Graham @ N20
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Thats what your doing to my Vic E right now! Cant wait to get it all wrapped up this spring!
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