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Old 09-15-2011, 02:33 PM
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Hey guys.

My plate kit will be good to go later tonight. I got the NOS wet plate kit from Summit after many many, deciding factors. Anyways what I have is boltons, 3800 circle d converter,( lots more mods that don't affect nitrous ) with a Bolton mailtune from Frost.

Since the kit only comes with 100,125, and 150 jets. Will a 100shot be ok with the timing I have now? Also really what plugs should I run? I know to get a NGK NP plug but what heat range? And should I do the resistor mod for peace of mind?

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Edit: Friday night Ive got 3 03' Cobras and 2 SRT4's to contend with . So the sooner I know the better. Plan on running at least a bottle or 2 through it.
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Can you contact the tune company and find out how much timing is in the car now?
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I'm pretty sure it's 4 degrees advance.
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I just bought TR6's or it will say it in the description when your buying the plugs what there good for meaning nitrous plugs or what not. I would get it re tuned through tunedbyfrost.com since he can give you a seperate tune for nitrous and max n/a tune and dont have to compromise on power. If you have a tune on your bolt ons i would not run nitrous and get a tune on it anyway. I have the black box from frost which alows me to switch to a nitrous tune when i turn on my nitrous and back to a max n/a tune when i turn it off, best of both worlds. Im running a dry shot of 100 for now and cant complain.
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Originally Posted by 99_pewterZ_A4
Hey guys.

My plate kit will be good to go later tonight. I got the NOS wet plate kit from Summit after many many, deciding factors. Anyways what I have is boltons, 3800 circle d converter,( lots more mods that don't affect nitrous ) with a Bolton mailtune from Frost.

Since the kit only comes with 100,125, and 150 jets. Will a 100shot be ok with the timing I have now? Also really what plugs should I run? I know to get a NGK NP plug but what heat range? And should I do the resistor mod for peace of mind?

Aaron

Edit: Friday night Ive got 3 03' Cobras and 2 SRT4's to contend with . So the sooner I know the better. Plan on running at least a bottle or 2 through it.
Aaron, I would not spray a mail order N/A tune. Odds are he has the timming aggressive for the best N/A performance. Put a lingenfelter controller on there and remove some timming.

As for spark plug choice if your motor is stock a BR7EF spark plug will be fine for 150 and below.

Dave
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Hmm. Thanks. Either way it's gettin sprayed. Lol.
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Ill get it tuned if the plugs read bad.
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If the plugs are missing the tips you will not have to worry about getting the tune right anylonger..... Because odds are you will have already hurt the motor by then. If you cant afford to do it right Im going to guess you cant afford to replace the motor right now.

Sorry to be so blunt.. Save your self some headache and do it right.
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Just figured an ls1 could stand up to it.
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Need the plugs before you spray for sure, you will miss with the plugs you have now even on a 50 shot.
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I'm no expert but that seems like a bad idea. Tiny pieces of steel grinding at your piston walls would be a bad night lol. I would never risk that. I think nitro dave is giving you your best advice. Like I said I'm no expert but I would buy a handheld tuner, remove timing, and get proper plugs. That would run you less $ than a decent ls1 that will handle the spray
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LOL

dont ask advice from professionals if your going to do what you want to do anyways.
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^^^ True, even in my situation right now just to use 25hp more meaning going from 100 shot dry to 125 shot dry i have to contact my tuner get a ton of advice, make sure the duty cycle on my injectors is fine and see if i need to re send it back for a tune for 125hp shot or should i just say F it, its not worth it just do a injector and fuel pump upgrade and just do a 150+shot of nitrous. This is my 3rd nitrous car and nitrous is super safe and reliable as long as you have a good tune, correct plugs, good a/f, duty cycle is good on your injectors and so on. Its not alot of work to get it right since there are very knowledgable people that can give you great advice, its very easy to be lazy or just say let me just try it and see what happens shouldnt be a big deal then you blow your motor and wish you took that one or two extra easy steps.
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I got the br7's.. Only reason I have intentions of doing it is because a friend has been spraying his car on a 100shot with a Bolton tune for months now. No issues, clean plugs.

And he's using tr6's.
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Originally Posted by 99_pewterZ_A4
I got the br7's.. Only reason I have intentions of doing it is because a friend has been spraying his car on a 100shot with a Bolton tune for months now. No issues, clean plugs.

And he's using tr6's.
Any idea how much timing he's running at WOT though? Could be a very conservative tune.

If Frost tuned the car he should have the file saved, give him a call, pm, or email and ask him how aggressive the timing tables are, if he says don't spray it.. don't spray it.
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Originally Posted by 99_pewterZ_A4
I got the br7's.. Only reason I have intentions of doing it is because a friend has been spraying his car on a 100shot with a Bolton tune for months now. No issues, clean plugs.

And he's using tr6's.
ok well I can tell you just from the short info you gave me, dont follow your friend because he is spraying on a projected tip plug that is for BOOST, not for nitrous.

just because he is getting away with it now, doesnt mean he wont window the block sometime on the next bottle.

I am a cam only car with a 150 wet shot. I am only running 21* of timing. My car makes 400rwhp all motor, and 517rwhp on a 100 shot, and 600rwhp on a 150. I have put 15 bottles through my car and the car runs flawless. Why? because i did research and listened to people and started to learn how to set up something reliable. Nitrous can last forever, or it can break **** real quick.
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Everytime i speak to frost he always says its not safe and send it back for a nitrous tune or a re tune when i up my shot or when i plan to use nitrous. I think in this case he will say the same thing to you. I know there are people out there who run 150 shot no tune, 100 shot with max n/a tune and so on but its a risk in my opinion not worth taking.
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Just curious i know your running wet but do you have injectors or a fuel pump. Those are impressive numbers to say the least, im hoping i can just get to 500rwhp on 125-150 dry shot.










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ok well I can tell you just from the short info you gave me, dont follow your friend because he is spraying on a projected tip plug that is for BOOST, not for nitrous.

just because he is getting away with it now, doesnt mean he wont window the block sometime on the next bottle.

I am a cam only car with a 150 wet shot. I am only running 21* of timing. My car makes 400rwhp all motor, and 517rwhp on a 100 shot, and 600rwhp on a 150. I have put 15 bottles through my car and the car runs flawless. Why? because i did research and listened to people and started to learn how to set up something reliable. Nitrous can last forever, or it can break **** real quick.
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Originally Posted by karpetcm
Just curious i know your running wet but do you have injectors or a fuel pump. Those are impressive numbers to say the least, im hoping i can just get to 500rwhp on 125-150 dry shot.
I am running the racetronix fuel pump and hotwire kit and 42lb injectors.

on the stock 28.8lb injectors, with my ms3 cam alone it was running out of fuel before 5900rpms.
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Damn the stock fuel pump and injectors suck when you start going past regular bolt ons. Im gonna invest some money in some injectors and fuel pump as well. Id really like to get to 150 dry shot but as it sits im sure im maxing out the injectors or close to it.


Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
I am running the racetronix fuel pump and hotwire kit and 42lb injectors.

on the stock 28.8lb injectors, with my ms3 cam alone it was running out of fuel before 5900rpms.


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