2lb inline bottle hidden under seat..
2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. I saw a post one time, can't remember where it was but, a guy was trying to get an idea on hiding a N20 system. Someone gave him this idea:
Instead of hiding it make them think you don't have it..
1)Have your 15lb bottle in the tire well w/ heater to keep the pressure
2)Run a line with a ball check valve to a 2lb bottle under the rear seat.
3)From there run to the solinoids.
By doing this the 15lb bottle would fill the smaller one when you open both bottles.. You could turn off the 15lb bottle (even remove it) before a race making the others think you had no N20 in the car. The 2lb bottle would last a run or two..
I like this idea but have some questions..
1) Instead of the ball check valve, could I just close my remote bottle opener to keep the pressure in the line and 2lb bottle?
2) Would this system stablize the 2lb bottle like it was explained?
3) Is there anything I am missing for a system such as this..
Thanks all for the help..
Instead of hiding it make them think you don't have it..
1)Have your 15lb bottle in the tire well w/ heater to keep the pressure
2)Run a line with a ball check valve to a 2lb bottle under the rear seat.
3)From there run to the solinoids.
By doing this the 15lb bottle would fill the smaller one when you open both bottles.. You could turn off the 15lb bottle (even remove it) before a race making the others think you had no N20 in the car. The 2lb bottle would last a run or two..
I like this idea but have some questions..
1) Instead of the ball check valve, could I just close my remote bottle opener to keep the pressure in the line and 2lb bottle?
2) Would this system stablize the 2lb bottle like it was explained?
3) Is there anything I am missing for a system such as this..
Thanks all for the help..
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. Neat idea. Use a solenoid between the 15# and 2# bottles, hook it to a "fill" button. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. I've thought of doing that for a long time until a friend reminded me that when people know you have spray on your car they're gonna want solenoid disconnection or disconnection of lines to the plate (or whatever you're using)
Unhooking the 15lbs bottle won't be enough for real street racers.
Unhooking the 15lbs bottle won't be enough for real street racers.
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From: St. Paul, MN
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by LIL SS:
<strong>I saw a post one time, can't remember where it was but, a guy was trying to get an idea on hiding a N20 system. Someone gave him this idea:
Instead of hiding it make them think you don't have it..
1)Have your 15lb bottle in the tire well w/ heater to keep the pressure
2)Run a line with a ball check valve to a 2lb bottle under the rear seat.
3)From there run to the solinoids.
By doing this the 15lb bottle would fill the smaller one when you open both bottles.. You could turn off the 15lb bottle (even remove it) before a race making the others think you had no N20 in the car. The 2lb bottle would last a run or two..
I like this idea but have some questions..
1) Instead of the ball check valve, could I just close my remote bottle opener to keep the pressure in the line and 2lb bottle?
2) Would this system stablize the 2lb bottle like it was explained?
3) Is there anything I am missing for a system such as this..
Thanks all for the help..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I believe your referring to my post. Do a search under #419 and I'm sure you'll find it. There was alot of good info in that post.
<strong>I saw a post one time, can't remember where it was but, a guy was trying to get an idea on hiding a N20 system. Someone gave him this idea:
Instead of hiding it make them think you don't have it..
1)Have your 15lb bottle in the tire well w/ heater to keep the pressure
2)Run a line with a ball check valve to a 2lb bottle under the rear seat.
3)From there run to the solinoids.
By doing this the 15lb bottle would fill the smaller one when you open both bottles.. You could turn off the 15lb bottle (even remove it) before a race making the others think you had no N20 in the car. The 2lb bottle would last a run or two..
I like this idea but have some questions..
1) Instead of the ball check valve, could I just close my remote bottle opener to keep the pressure in the line and 2lb bottle?
2) Would this system stablize the 2lb bottle like it was explained?
3) Is there anything I am missing for a system such as this..
Thanks all for the help..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I believe your referring to my post. Do a search under #419 and I'm sure you'll find it. There was alot of good info in that post.
Launching!
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From: St. Paul, MN
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by Slowhawk:
<strong>I think this is why I have the bottle in the spare tire well with a remote opener.
Why get technical????</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know that's a good place for a stealth setup for most people, but it has become way to popular for all around bottle placement, even those who don't even desire a stealth kit. Thus meaning, it's the first place a real racer looks. Think of it this way, if you had it "hidden" in the spare tire well and he found it he really wouldn't expect ANOTHER bottle hidden under the seat.
<strong>I think this is why I have the bottle in the spare tire well with a remote opener.
Why get technical????</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know that's a good place for a stealth setup for most people, but it has become way to popular for all around bottle placement, even those who don't even desire a stealth kit. Thus meaning, it's the first place a real racer looks. Think of it this way, if you had it "hidden" in the spare tire well and he found it he really wouldn't expect ANOTHER bottle hidden under the seat.
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Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by Jacobi:
<strong>
I know that's a good place for a stealth setup for most people, but it has become way to popular for all around bottle placement, even those who don't even desire a stealth kit. Thus meaning, it's the first place a real racer looks. Think of it this way, if you had it "hidden" in the spare tire well and he found it he really wouldn't expect ANOTHER bottle hidden under the seat.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But they will find it under the hood.It might sound like a populer place,but it's still hidden and you can spray more than once.
<strong>
I know that's a good place for a stealth setup for most people, but it has become way to popular for all around bottle placement, even those who don't even desire a stealth kit. Thus meaning, it's the first place a real racer looks. Think of it this way, if you had it "hidden" in the spare tire well and he found it he really wouldn't expect ANOTHER bottle hidden under the seat.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But they will find it under the hood.It might sound like a populer place,but it's still hidden and you can spray more than once.
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Verdad Gallardo Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. Most people I have run with this car thought I was squeezing before I had the bottle. By doing it this way, I can say, sure I have the bottle but I'll turn it off..
Now I don't race for money!! If I beat someone using the bottle big f'ing deal. Most the time they wont run me because I have a bottle that's BS.. They could be head/cam mustang or even blown and wont run me because the bottle..
So this way, I use it if I need it.. Too bad so sad if I win.. Not like I took money from them..
Now I don't race for money!! If I beat someone using the bottle big f'ing deal. Most the time they wont run me because I have a bottle that's BS.. They could be head/cam mustang or even blown and wont run me because the bottle..
So this way, I use it if I need it.. Too bad so sad if I win.. Not like I took money from them..
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From: St. Paul, MN
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by LIL SS:
<strong>I do have 1 more quetion..
Is there a chance the 2lb bottle would be overfilled by setting it up this way??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good question...but it would only get the exact same pressure that the big bottle had (minus the little bit it took to fill the little bottle, but still even pressure) so as long as the little bottle is built to the same tolerances as the big one (I'm sure it is!) everything is peachy!
<strong>I do have 1 more quetion..
Is there a chance the 2lb bottle would be overfilled by setting it up this way??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good question...but it would only get the exact same pressure that the big bottle had (minus the little bit it took to fill the little bottle, but still even pressure) so as long as the little bottle is built to the same tolerances as the big one (I'm sure it is!) everything is peachy!
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by Jacobi:
<strong>
Good question...but it would only get the exact same pressure that the big bottle had (minus the little bit it took to fill the little bottle, but still even pressure) so as long as the little bottle is built to the same tolerances as the big one (I'm sure it is!) everything is peachy!</strong><hr></blockquote>
They may have the same tolerance, but that doesn't mean the little one would/could not be overfilled.
Is there a was to prevent it if it would happen??
<strong>
Good question...but it would only get the exact same pressure that the big bottle had (minus the little bit it took to fill the little bottle, but still even pressure) so as long as the little bottle is built to the same tolerances as the big one (I'm sure it is!) everything is peachy!</strong><hr></blockquote>
They may have the same tolerance, but that doesn't mean the little one would/could not be overfilled.
Is there a was to prevent it if it would happen??
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From: St. Paul, MN
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by LIL SS:
<strong>
They may have the same tolerance, but that doesn't mean the little one would/could not be overfilled.
Is there a was to prevent it if it would happen??</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, pressure is pressure...if they are both hooked up to the same line, the pressure will be the same in both...physics at it's best!
<strong>
They may have the same tolerance, but that doesn't mean the little one would/could not be overfilled.
Is there a was to prevent it if it would happen??</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, pressure is pressure...if they are both hooked up to the same line, the pressure will be the same in both...physics at it's best!
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. I understand the pressure aspect.. N20 in weight does not invole pressure.. My fear is you could have 2lbs of N20 flow in to a bottle that has 1lb prior to opening if your pressure is higher in the big bottle..
The bottles might have the same pressure but how much N20 flows into the small one may vary..
The bottles might have the same pressure but how much N20 flows into the small one may vary..
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. It would work. Only one problem. The small bottle will not fill a full two pounds with liquid N2O and it'll run out really fast. It will give you a "little nudge" though.
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Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. [quote]Originally posted by Slowhawk:
<strong>
But they will find it under the hood.It might sound like a populer place,but it's still hidden and you can spray more than once.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I realize that they will find it under the hood...that's okay. Once they find the big bottle, you either take it out or turn the big bottle off. They'll be none the wiser to the second bottle!
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But they will find it under the hood.It might sound like a populer place,but it's still hidden and you can spray more than once.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I realize that they will find it under the hood...that's okay. Once they find the big bottle, you either take it out or turn the big bottle off. They'll be none the wiser to the second bottle!
Re: 2lb inline bottle hidden under seat.. I have thought about the same kind of setup.. with a twist. I mounted my 15lb bottle across the holders for the t-tops. I thought of installing a second 10lb bottle in the spare tire well and using a tee to connect them underneath the car. I know it would be expensive to buy another bottle, but who is going to expect you to have another bottle hidden in the spare tire well when you have a big bottle out in the open? Just my 2 cents.
Kevin
Kevin
