RGVelite

I own a small shop and was asking everyones advice on making a buy in with NX or TNT. I currently have a project car which is either going to get a nx or tnt kit.Depending on which brand i go with. Can i get some advice. Ive seen cars on TNT and never a car on NX. How do they compare and what do you think people are mor likely to purchase. Thanks in advance <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

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99blkta

tnt all the way <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

RyanJ

since you own a shop...id say NX as Nitrous Warehouse has a sweet no-buy-in program....however....for power? TNT is #1.

RGVelite

The buy in is no problem, do you see tnt around for a long time? What matters to me is quality, service and performance. All the tnt kits I,ve seen in my area have caused little mishaps. One last question, Why does tnt use more fuel to atomize? NX says the use less fuel because their nozzle atomize better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Slowhawk

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More fuel= more torque.

I thought a long time about what kit to get,I finally decided on TNT for quality and the 2 nozzles which to me,means better fuel/nitrous distribution.
I've emptied whole bottles within 40 miles on the highway without one problem.

RyanJ

what mishaps?

to you whats better? two nozzles and WAY more tq, or one nozzle and less. dollar for dollar and pound for pound (of juice that is)...TNT makes more power.

BYBYC5

i dont know about tnt making more power,i just switched to tnt from NX and while i havent tested it yet i had really good gains from NX, keep in mind a tnt 150 doesnt = an NX 150

Slow Z28

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well, i love TNT. that's all i've ever had, but i've had friends with NOS and NX stuff. i can't really say on quality, as i've never seen a problem with any of them. But what kind of shop are you running? just the EFI latemodel performance like all of our sponsors, or ALL types. cause that could help your decision because I THINK, and stress think, that NX offers a wider number of choices/applications. But i could be wrong, cause i have seen that TNT does offer a LOT of stuff. good luck with your choice. I'd say TNT though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Chris

BYBYC5

NX is top quality!! noids are sweet and customer service is great (at least with me). I just got a tnt kit too see if it would be any better, and so far i have seen no diffrence. tnt for looks and coolness nx for price and simplicity(spelling?)just <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> imo.

SloViper

We have been selling the NX stuff for 2 years, and havent had any problems. Their customer service is as good as the product. Nx has always upgraded products if they find something better that works.

RyanJ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Grinch:
<strong>i dont know about tnt making more power,i just switched to tnt from NX and while i havent tested it yet i had really good gains from NX, keep in mind a tnt 150 doesnt = an NX 150</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a 150 is a 150 is a 150. if i go buy an NX kit...spray with 150hp jets...then buy a TNT kit to compare and spray with the 150hp jets...TNT would make more power (definately more tq). why would one compare a set of one companies 150hp jets to another companies 100hp jets. a company builds and rates their jets their own way.

BTW, how many 10-sec NX cars (single stage) are on the board. i know of one 6-spd with a 100-shot in the 10's, one 3-spd way in the 10's on a 150...etc...etc.

Ryan

BYBYC5

a 150 nx isNOT the same as a 150 tnt
as nx it rated as n20 input where as tnt is rated a rwhp, competly diffrent "150" cases now if you were to compare an NX 150 RWHP shot and a TNT rwhp shot i dont think there would be a noticable diffrence as i have done just that. Im not leaning toward one brand or the next(ok well ya i like NX better even tho i run tnt, go figure) its all in how the kit is rated, if it were an even rwhp test then it wouldnt(imo) be a significant change, but its all good it all makes ya go fast <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

RyanJ

ok then lets compare. NO company is specifically better than the other. the solinoids are comparable, the jets are different...as are the ratings. no biggie. just dont expect to get 150rwhp and 200+++rwtq out of an NX kit. im not saying TNT is better, just that at their rated 150hp level...more power is gained. it is the truth...sorry. no, the jet size isnt the same...no the kit does not look the same...if they did, one wouldnt be called NX while the other was named TNT. do ya get where im going with this. yes, hte NX kit is cleaner...especially on a DP (LOVE those rails!).

we can compare all 5 if you like...i dont have any knowledge of the NW or CompuCar systems myself though. NOS 100jets...maybe 80rwhp, NX 100jets...like 90-95, maybe right at 100 or so....TNT 100jets...consistantly over 100...up to 120 at times. TQ is not even comparable. I know a kid with a hardlined TNT F1 (not fully comparable i know...), stock manifolds/cats, STOCK plugs, only a lid and borla, something like 330 or 340rwtq na...and more than 600 on the bottle. pretty good for 3 mods total.

RYan

RGVelite

Thanks guys i really appreciate all the knowledge you guys shared with me. I really see how tnt produces more torque. What i dont understand is how they can rate a jet at 100 when in actuality its a 120. Its like Nx saying their 125 jet produces 150 rwhp when in actuality they are using a 150 jet only naming it a 125. Torque there is no doubt TNT all the way.

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RGVelite

Thanks guys i really appreciate all the knowledge you guys shared with me. I really see how tnt produces more torque. What i dont understand is how they can rate a jet at 100 when in actuality its a 120. Its like Nx saying their 125 jet produces 150 rwhp when in actuality they are using a 150 jet only naming it a 125. Torque there is no doubt TNT all the way.

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badass 2002 z28

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compairing NX to TNT is like compairing green apples with red one's

383LQ4SS

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Well wouldnt it be better to find out what the flow rate for the nitrous and fuel is for each kit and then see how much HP is being put down. If you could get both kits to flow comparable amounts of each and then compare HP gains between the two it seems you could verify one manufacturers nozzle is better than another. Kit X with jet size Y at 1000 psi flows this many PPH and produces these gains. Then compare same flow rates with brand Z. Seems like this would be the only way to compare green apples to green apples.

BYBYC5

how can you measure that, i have both kits and would really like to prove one way or the other that im right or im wrong, either way id just like to get proof.no flames cooper, just trying to get some misleadings out of the way once and for all. ill have track times soon for tnt "rated"150 and nx rating. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

383LQ4SS

iTrader: (33)

Hmmm....well, to be honest I dont even know if that would be possible to accurately measure. For Nitrous the most accurate way I could think of would be to maybe spray in fourth on a stop watch for a specified time and pull the bottle and weigh it each time. Making sure pressure was the same each time before spraying. Maybe do a few runs and get the avg of each. For the fuel....that would be a little tougher. Im sure someone can come up with something. Wheres all the smart people?

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Slow Z28

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RGVelite....
TNT rates there system at the rear wheels on a STOCK car. so with that, their 100 shot does equal a 100 shot. BUT, when you add an air lid and headers, etc... to our cars, the motors become more efficient, therefor producing more power on the bottle. that is how the tnt kits end up putting down 120hp on a 100 shot. hope that explains a little better.

Chris