</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by racin jason:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> oh, and this is medical grade nitrous from my mom's dental office....so no sulfer, no trace of nitrous used <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ummm that may be your problem.....? sulfur does reduce detonation.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nah...when racers first used nitrous it was in the pure form. The ONLY reason sulpher was added was for substance abuse prevention. It has a negligable effect on performance.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ray99ws6:
<strong>hey all. i really need some (actually a lot of help.) i installed macs and orp and tnt wet kit. i sprayed the 75 shot at 55mph at 3200 rpm and shut down at 5800. everything went good until i turned around and headed back home. car shut down and tons of white smoke came from the exhaust, smelled almost like fuel or something. everything was atapped and fine. i don't understand. when i tried to start the car up again, loud noises came from the passenger side of the car, almost like a rod was blown or something. i haven't taken it apart yet so i'm not sure. it's still under warranty and this was the FIRST AND ONLY time gas was sprayed on the car. how can i make it so that f*cking GM doesn't know i had spray on the car?!?!? does anybody have any suggestions??? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. ray.
ps. i had every safety thing imaginable on the car so this wouldn't happen!!! WTF!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Put some other used oil in the pan, cause' clean oil will look like you staged it. Put some dirt or debris in your oil filter screen, so it'll looked like there was **** in the oil that fucked up your sump screen. You might clean your intake manifold and heads. Don't forget to check the plugs also. They don't need to be sano clean, but have to be believable.You could also put water in your tank. Remember your objective is to line up the causes for rod failure, and that's usually detonation. You want to stage the big causes of this, so when the technician goes down the diagnostics check list he'll find something. What was your timing setup by the way? It may be more trouble than it' s worth to get the warranty from GM.

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: sawedoff ]</small>

 

Man thats really messed up. I hit my car with a 150 shot from NX for a year with only 8,000 miles on the car and I didnt really have any problems. I wasnt too bright about it either. I was using only 93 octane holiday gas and I had hypertech programing installed. The only thing that ever happened was a spark plug melted. I think thats when the people dynod it and engaged the system over and over at just 1800 RPMs. Bastards!

 

I've been running the hell out of my 98 with the TNT kit on it. I have it jetted for 100hp on the street and 150 at the track. I've put somewhere around 40 or 50 bottles thru it and I don't have any horror stories yet, well just one... I've killed a bunch of tires!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

no, there is NO way a 75 shot killed my motor. motor died b/c of garbage parts (that's why you pay 33 grand for the car!!!) medical grade nitrous will actually burn better in the motor, it always did in my fox body mustang (ran 200 wet shot for 2 years and the motor is still going strong). like i said, there's motor oil coming up into the intake manifold and out through my K&N filter, so that means blown (cracked) pistons. the thing that sucks is the motor blew 2 days after changing oil, plugs, filters. i still have the old oil at my house, so i'm gonna have to put some of the old in so it doesn't look staged. like i said before, i don't TNT or nitrous on the engine failure, i blame poor craftsmanship. i have babied this car since day one.....i'm only 20 and in college, so i don't have the money to beat the crap out of it like i want to <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> .
gomer - yea, i was getting to killing the tires, oops, but the motor went first, lol!

 

thanks man, i appreciate your honesty!!! it means a lot to me! thank you!

 

anyway, i'm not having GM fix it, they'll prolly put something sh*tty in there again. forged internals are the way!!!! <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

 

You said that the fuel pressure did NOT drop at all, right? So... I assume you have a fuel pressure gauge, right. Well, When I spray my car, my FP goes from ~62 PSI to ~55 PSI. This was a wet kit right? I also have the Walboro 340 FP so Its pushing alot more. maybe you should start at the fuel solenoid and see if it was working first. Raw N2O and no fuel from a wet kit will blow a motor on the first hit.

Just FYI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

FWIW, LS1's have been handling big shot of nitrous quite well with factory stuff for 5+ yrs now. There are guys running 200 shots on stock motors with no problems, and others with 40-50K miles of nitrous rides and still running fine. Just because one blows up doesn't mean they all suck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Josh

 

I guess you paid 33K for your car because it had the nitrous option? You blow it up...you fix it...END OF STORY. GM didn't design the motor for nitrous, but you decided to but it on. If you never put the nitrous on the car the motor would have been replaced if there really was a defect that caused the problem. Now you are going to try to get the dealership to fix the problem that you caused. People like you are the reason that these cars cost 33K.