TR 230/224-111 LSA
09-26-2002, 04:42 PM
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TR 230/224-111 LSA how do you guys think this cam will do with nitrous? I know according to older engines its not optimal, usually a split pattern cam would be better. but we will see <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
09-27-2002, 07:33 AM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA I'm no expert. But with nitrous I beleive it's better to go bigger on the exhaust side. 224/227
230/224 is for N/A motors, but nitrous will still work sweet!
230/224 is for N/A motors, but nitrous will still work sweet!
09-27-2002, 07:46 AM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA Thunder Racing was saying it would cause a lot of cylinder pressure if you sprayed while using this. Might want to talk to them about it.
I have a friend with this cam that was going to spray but after he talked to them he decided not to.
I have a friend with this cam that was going to spray but after he talked to them he decided not to.
09-27-2002, 11:09 AM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA I have this cam and it's fine on the spray. Unless you're running a 200 shot or bigger, buy a cam that makes you the most power N/A, then spray on top of it!
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09-27-2002, 01:57 PM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patrick G:
<strong>I have this cam and it's fine on the spray. Unless you're running a 200 shot or bigger, buy a cam that makes you the most power N/A, then spray on top of it!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats exactly why I went with this cam! NA performer, but still ok with a mild shot of nitrous! I know with its cam specs it would create a lot of cylinder pressure, maybe a shitload of TQ too, I'll make sure I have a really free flowing exhaust, probably electric dual cutouts on a 3 inch y-pipe.
<strong>I have this cam and it's fine on the spray. Unless you're running a 200 shot or bigger, buy a cam that makes you the most power N/A, then spray on top of it!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats exactly why I went with this cam! NA performer, but still ok with a mild shot of nitrous! I know with its cam specs it would create a lot of cylinder pressure, maybe a shitload of TQ too, I'll make sure I have a really free flowing exhaust, probably electric dual cutouts on a 3 inch y-pipe.
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nic00Z28M6:
<strong>That thunder cam with nitrous is going to create a lot of cylinder pressure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the 111 LSA should help bleed off some pressure. maybe I should set a spray on point to about 3400 rpm instead of 3k?
<strong>That thunder cam with nitrous is going to create a lot of cylinder pressure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the 111 LSA should help bleed off some pressure. maybe I should set a spray on point to about 3400 rpm instead of 3k?
10-02-2002, 12:43 AM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patrick G:
<strong>I have this cam and it's fine on the spray. Unless you're running a 200 shot or bigger, buy a cam that makes you the most power N/A, then spray on top of it!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My question is how much horsepower and torque are you sacrificing ON THE SPRAY? Sure, if may work fine, but how much could you gain if you went to say a 224/230???
<strong>I have this cam and it's fine on the spray. Unless you're running a 200 shot or bigger, buy a cam that makes you the most power N/A, then spray on top of it!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My question is how much horsepower and torque are you sacrificing ON THE SPRAY? Sure, if may work fine, but how much could you gain if you went to say a 224/230???
10-02-2002, 03:55 PM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA I'm actually making more rwhp and tq on the spray with my TR 230/224 111LSA cam than I was with my TR 224/224 112LSA cam. No big surprise. Remember, I still have 224 degrees of exhaust duration. The 111LSA keeps the intake valve from closing too late which helps on the spray. I'm running stock '98 fuel pump. That's why I'm limiting my shots to a .062 jet (125 shot). Anything bigger is approaching the limits of the fuel delivery capacity (and the stock shortblock capacity, LOL).
Honestly, a 125 shot is pretty small and does not require a specially made cam in my opinion. I'd rather be fast N/A and have the nitrous on hand for the really fast guys. BTW, with all the 422s, Vipers and Supras running around, keeping the bottle open is a necessity in Houston.
If you're going to run a 200 shot or bigger, then it's time to start rethinking cams. Under that, just pick the cam that works best N/A and spray the **** out of it (with the proper tuning of course).
Honestly, a 125 shot is pretty small and does not require a specially made cam in my opinion. I'd rather be fast N/A and have the nitrous on hand for the really fast guys. BTW, with all the 422s, Vipers and Supras running around, keeping the bottle open is a necessity in Houston.
If you're going to run a 200 shot or bigger, then it's time to start rethinking cams. Under that, just pick the cam that works best N/A and spray the **** out of it (with the proper tuning of course).
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10-02-2002, 06:42 PM
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA That cam should work but 114 LSA is recomended for N20 use. I am waiting for the install on my TR 224/227 cam. Then we'll see how much hp my car is worth.
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Re: TR 230/224-111 LSA </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SSprayn:
<strong>That cam should work but 114 LSA is recomended for N20 use. I am waiting for the install on my TR 224/227 cam. Then we'll see how much hp my car is worth.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You must post those numbers when you get them, cause I'm thinking of getting the same set up.
<strong>That cam should work but 114 LSA is recomended for N20 use. I am waiting for the install on my TR 224/227 cam. Then we'll see how much hp my car is worth.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You must post those numbers when you get them, cause I'm thinking of getting the same set up.
