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Old 04-22-2013, 08:47 AM
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im currently only seen 125 to the rear wheels with that noid and 62n/33f.
Someone told me my cam and stall are eating some power but thats a lot. I make 400 n/a with a 3200 vig recently rebuilt by fti.
so 525/480 tq was the most I saw on the dyno and highest trap speed was 126 with no weight redux. so starting from least expensive I was wondering if that cheater noid could be the issue, I bought the kit used so idk, maybe debris blocking someof the flow. im on a 90 nitrous outlet plate system and afr are 12.1s wit conservative 18 deg timing on spray. any help appreciated. thnks

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The cheater solenoid should be big enough to support a 150hp at least. I believe they have a .092 orifice which is enough flow to support that.

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The NOS Cheater nitrous solenoid is a .090 orifice. It can support up to about 250 HP.
with a .070 Nitrous jet you should be seeing more than 125 to the ground.

What hoses are you feeding the plate with from the solenoids? If the nitrous hose running from the solenoid to the plate is a 3 an I would upgrade it to our race hose. That could be your restriction.

What does your motor like for N/A timing?
What spark plugs are you using and what is the gap?

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motor likes 24_25 for timing and br7 plugs gapped at 34
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i believe the hose itd a 3an
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Does the Hose have a 3 an nut on each end? If so you would currently be using a 7/16 wrench on each end.
If that is the case upgrade to our race hose. You will also need a outlet fitting for the solenoid.
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on the plate side I use a 1/2 wrench not sure on the noid side but I can check, thnks
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just checked and the hose and its indeed a 3an hose with a 1/8 3an on noid side and 4an on plate. So I call Murrays Speed n Custom to see if they have a 4an hose [since they are 15mins awa] and the rep says I dont need a different hose that nitrous hp its by pressure and jet sizes anywhrere from 50-250 shots. lol
so its the 3an hose the goose neck?
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whats the most rwhp folks usually get out of a 3an line ?
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The 3 an hose will normally start to become a flow restriction around 160-175 hp. With the .070 jet you should be gaining around 160-165 HP. With the combo you have you should be able to make more than 125 hp.

I do not see anything tune up wise that jumps out at me. Any chance your wide band is off?
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
The 3 an hose will normally start to become a flow restriction around 160-175 hp. With the .070 jet you should be gaining around 160-165 HP. With the combo you have you should be able to make more than 125 hp.

I do not see anything tune up wise that jumps out at me. Any chance your wide band is off?
The wideband its an uego with barely 1k miles and i compared with a friends WB and its accurate. The feed line its 3AN and its about 3 ft long, and i really need a 19-20 inch one, so the extra inches on that 3an i'm thinking it adds to the restriction..

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Dave if the 3an hose its indeed the restriction and i buy a 4an hose, would i need to go up one size on the fuel jet? i tried signin on @Nitrous outlet to buy a .035 jet, and somehow i couldn't, even tried signin up as new customer and nada.. Wondering who else would sell me a 035 jet compatible to your Plates
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Hmm not sure why it would not let you log in. Ill have to get with Thad. The line being 3 ft long over the normal 2 foot will be a little more restriction as well.

Upgrading the hose may very well change the tune up if you are max flowing the hose.

If you can call us we can take the order over the phone. 1-866-648-7637
Ask for Brandon or John.

You will need a Exit fitting for the solenoid as well as our race hose.
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