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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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Have you tried getting in touch with Brandon at Nitrous Outlet? I bet he could help you out. I thought on their website they have separate jets for E85, but could be wrong. By the way, what's up with your avatar nitrous guy.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Have you tried getting in touch with Brandon at Nitrous Outlet? I bet he could help you out. I thought on their website they have separate jets for E85, but could be wrong. By the way, what's up with your avatar nitrous guy.
I used there jet chart as a starting guide but for me they have always been on the rich side.

I'm supposed to be going turbo and just use the nitrous for a little bit but it's been 5 years and I haven't installed the turbo kit yet.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Stay nitrous and be different. Everyone and their mom's brother's friend's dog's groomer is going turbo.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Stay nitrous and be different. Everyone and their mom's brother's friend's dog's groomer is going turbo.
I got you but it's starting to get expensive. I only get 3 runs on a 10lb bottle and refills range from $35-50 depending on where I go. I go thru 2-3 bottles per track outing.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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With a 48F jet, I'll bet it'll be super rich, so why go up when your A/F was already decent with a 35F jet? I've learned my lesson going by those charts.

Shoot for 12.5-13.0 A/F, close to what it runs N/A. Just make sure you have plenty of timing out.

For a 200, put in a#9 (1085). For a 300, I would put in a #11 (6596) plug. From what I've seen, a gasket plug will work. Just ordered some myself.
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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Why a 9 heat range plug when the motor has lower cr and its on e85?
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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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^Safer IMO
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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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Run it fat with a hot plug... br7efs up to a 150 anything over run a -8.. you don't want that cold of a plug, this isn't gas.. go over to yellow bullet under the fuel section, great thread on E85 about 40 pages long... .030 gap. Don't run that cold of a plug.
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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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^"Run it fat with a hot plug"...

Go over to yellow bullet under the NITROUS section where some pop their motors with the same analogy you had. Here's one for ex: http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d+plugs&page=2

In the end SRTKLLR, do what you want.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 12:06 AM
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Lmao I'm only taking my advice from someone who is tuning 6 second cars... stick to reading with one dipshit or two that has had problems... to each his own
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shortdog
^"Run it fat with a hot plug"...

Go over to yellow bullet under the NITROUS section where some pop their motors with the same analogy you had. Here's one for ex: http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d+plugs&page=2

In the end SRTKLLR, do what you want.
I like how they are trying to read plugs with 2 different fuels in that thread.

To the OP, give me a call or shoot me a PM and I can get you sorted out on the fueling.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
I like how they are trying to read plugs with 2 different fuels in that thread.

To the OP, give me a call or shoot me a PM and I can get you sorted out on the fueling.
Not trying to hijack this thread but is it a bad idea running 2 different fuels? I just run pump 93 in the tank and E85 with the nitrous outlet stand alone.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slvr T/A
Not trying to hijack this thread but is it a bad idea running 2 different fuels? I just run pump 93 in the tank and E85 with the nitrous outlet stand alone.
Plug reading for each fuel utilizes its own method of reading the fuel ring. Its really a shot in the dark trying to tune with 2 types of fuel. Have you considered running C16 and 93?
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
Plug reading for each fuel utilizes its own method of reading the fuel ring. Its really a shot in the dark trying to tune with 2 types of fuel. Have you considered running C16 and 93?
Yes I have considered doing that a lot. Is that something you would recommend doing? Would C23 fuel be even better?

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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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How big of a shot are you running? C23 might be overkill.
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
How big of a shot are you running? C23 might be overkill.
150 right now but after my clutch i'll probably do a 200.

PM me if there's more I need to know I feel back jacking this thread lol
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how much compression is in the motor?stock cube? If it isn't anything crazy you could even run 100 in the stand alone.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
how much compression is in the motor?stock cube? If it isn't anything crazy you could even run 100 in the stand alone.
Right now it's all stock compression. After I put the heads on it'll be around 11:1. Stock cube stock bottom end LS1. 6 degrees of timing pulled using E85 in stand alone on 150 shot
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Unless you want to convert the whole car to E85, go with 100+ race gas and get a good plug reading. Let me know if I can help.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
Unless you want to convert the whole car to E85, go with 100+ race gas and get a good plug reading. Let me know if I can help.
Okay i'll be switching to C16 then. Or maybe C23 and possibly bump the timing up a little. Thank you for the help! Sorry to the OP for the
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