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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 04:55 AM
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I have never used nitrous in my life and I'm trying to put to gether a kit on paper for future use. My original intention was to use a stand alone fuel call and run some for of race gas in it. E85 Is easier to get for me so would it be safe to run pump gas through the motor and E85 for the nitrous? I'm not really sure how big of a shot I'm going to end up with. I'd say at least 200.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Yes you can do that. You just need to make sure the fuel system will handle e85.

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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Yeah there is no problem with that idea, also just make sure you would use the correct fuel jet for e85.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Are you saying that you want to enrich through the dedicated fuel cell with E85? You won't be able to get a good plug reading if that is the case. You use two different methods to read the spark plugs between gas an E85. When you mix them, you don't get good data on the plug(Fuel ring, heat range etc.).
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Plus whatabout the inconsistency of the E85? Man I'd think this over a little bit with a 200 hit
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
Are you saying that you want to enrich through the dedicated fuel cell with E85? You won't be able to get a good plug reading if that is the case. You use two different methods to read the spark plugs between gas an E85. When you mix them, you don't get good data on the plug(Fuel ring, heat range etc.).
He could still use a WB to get AFR data. I understand what you're saying, with out a doubt it will be hard to read the plug for fuel. It can still be done though.

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Plus whatabout the inconsistency of the E85? Man I'd think this over a little bit with a 200 hit
If it's going into a dedicated fuel cell. Surely to god he can afford a $15 E85 tester.
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FEAR LS
He could still use a WB to get AFR data. I understand what you're saying, with out a doubt it will be hard to read the plug for fuel. It can still be done though.



If it's going into a dedicated fuel cell. Surely to god he can afford a $15 E85 tester.
What target AFR would you say he should shoot for?

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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
What target AFR would you say he should he shoot for?
Why would it be any different than gasoline, and people use C16 in a cell? I personally run E85 in my car, and I run close to an .84 lambda with MY setup. Essentially a 12.5AFR on a gas scale.

Obviously his setup will be night and day from mine.. but if he was setup with a BR7 plug, 150 shot jetting.. I would take 6-7* of timing out, and aim for a 12.5 AFR as well. That would be "safe" IMO

Why do I think this is a setup... Someone with an @NitrousOutlet tag is hitting me with loaded questions like this.
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Id just run straight e85 but your mpg will go down yet E85 is cheaper than gas so depending on how much you drive it shouldn't hurt your wallet.
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Originally Posted by FEAR LS
Why would it be any different than gasoline, and people use C16 in a cell? I personally run E85 in my car, and I run close to an .84 lambda with MY setup. Essentially a 12.5AFR on a gas scale.

Obviously his setup will be night and day from mine.. but if he was setup with a BR7 plug, 150 shot jetting.. I would take 6-7* of timing out, and aim for a 12.5 AFR as well. That would be "safe" IMO

Why do I think this is a setup... Someone with an @NitrousOutlet tag is hitting me with loaded questions like this.
It's not a loaded question and I'm not trying to bait you into anything but you see where I'm going with it right? Its just a lot easier to run all of the same type of fuel.

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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
It's not a loaded question and I'm not trying to bait you into anything but you see where I'm going with it right? Its just a lot easier to run all of the same type of fuel.

Lol... Like I said earlier I agree with you. Although I do see benefits to be had using E85, without knowing anything about his setup I too would recommend using 91 octane gasoline or better. It would be much more simple and cost less when considering the stand alone purchase.

It would be nice to hear something from the OP...
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FEAR LS
He could still use a WB to get AFR data. I understand what you're saying, with out a doubt it will be hard to read the plug for fuel. It can still be done though.



If it's going into a dedicated fuel cell. Surely to god he can afford a $15 E85 tester.
My point is this. My personal experience with E85 and nitrous was VERY inconsistent, and this was during the summer months. One tank of E85 I would be fine on a 150 pill and the next fill up, I had major detonation. Hated that ****
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