So, what does happen when a nitrous bottle explodes?
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The Bull
Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
So, what does happen when a nitrous bottle explodes? i think those are the same ones from back in the day years ago. Something about how he cut the resistors off the bottle heater so it didnt read anything and could heat up really quick and something else along the lines of he blocked off the blow off valve. then again, that's all internet gossip "legend". shitty either way cause it's like a minature bomb.
Dude comes home, puts the car in the garage, and closes the bottle. Dude forgets the bottle heater on (note: NX bottle heater works on PRESSURE -- with the bottle closed, the pressure transducer doesn't see bottle pressure) Dude forgets to shut off bottle heater, goes in house... Well, NORMALLY this wouldn't be too big of a deal -- the burst disc would rupture and other than losing your bottle full of nitrous, there'd be no damage. Well, this guy decided he wanted an NHRA-legal blow-down tube. Kudos for that, but when you install the blowdown tube fitting, its usually best to only put ONE disc in there -- not TWO. 
So, the safety mechanism of the valve was defeated, the bottle heater was wired directly to the battery and left on, and the bottle valve was closed. BOOM ...
So, the safety mechanism of the valve was defeated, the bottle heater was wired directly to the battery and left on, and the bottle valve was closed. BOOM ... Trending Topics
I love reading his commentary on the email between him and the owner of NX ...
NX: such and such safety bypassed
Doyle: yeah, but blahblahblah
NX: such and such installed improperly, NOT as clearly stated in instructions...
Doyle: ok yea, but blahblahblah
NX: heater switch with red light indicating its ON installed outside of drivers view..
Doyle: so what? blahblahblah a half million dollars and I'll take my site down!!
NX: FU (ok, I added that part)
I'm gessing he didn't get a red cent from NX, because his site is still up, and now he's "demanding" (on his own crappy website) for the bottle valve manufacturer to contact him. I'm guessing he's gonna try to sue them as well
What makes a dolt think you can defeat every safety designed into a system, blow your car up (literally), and be compensated for it??
NX: such and such safety bypassed
Doyle: yeah, but blahblahblah
NX: such and such installed improperly, NOT as clearly stated in instructions...
Doyle: ok yea, but blahblahblah
NX: heater switch with red light indicating its ON installed outside of drivers view..
Doyle: so what? blahblahblah a half million dollars and I'll take my site down!!
NX: FU (ok, I added that part)
I'm gessing he didn't get a red cent from NX, because his site is still up, and now he's "demanding" (on his own crappy website) for the bottle valve manufacturer to contact him. I'm guessing he's gonna try to sue them as well
What makes a dolt think you can defeat every safety designed into a system, blow your car up (literally), and be compensated for it??
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Guess I'm still confused on this one and what really happened.
I cook pizza at 400 degrees, and it will burn up if left in the oven too long even though the temperature of the oven never gets over 400 degrees.
So why would I want to buy a bottle heater that heats up to 400 degrees?
Please tell me that they don't make bottle heaters that heat up to 400 degrees
I cook pizza at 400 degrees, and it will burn up if left in the oven too long even though the temperature of the oven never gets over 400 degrees.
So why would I want to buy a bottle heater that heats up to 400 degrees?
Please tell me that they don't make bottle heaters that heat up to 400 degrees
Staging Lane
Joined: May 2004
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I read about years ago. What a waste that some people out there will try any thing to get money.
The bottle heater can only get to 400' in free air. "FREE AIR" Is the heater is not strapped to a bottle. You would have to hang the heater by one of the d-rings and turn it on. Also at the temp. the heater is in thermal melt down. The silicon will turn back into a powdered state. Any of the heaters out there can do this. THat is why you have to have it strapped to the bottle, "a heat sink". As long as it is strapped to the bottle the heater will never get that hot 400'. Once the wires get that hot the amy break and loose the connection.
I think all the safety features that are setup and in place but were ignored. Luckly no body got hurt.
Just my opion.
The bottle heater can only get to 400' in free air. "FREE AIR" Is the heater is not strapped to a bottle. You would have to hang the heater by one of the d-rings and turn it on. Also at the temp. the heater is in thermal melt down. The silicon will turn back into a powdered state. Any of the heaters out there can do this. THat is why you have to have it strapped to the bottle, "a heat sink". As long as it is strapped to the bottle the heater will never get that hot 400'. Once the wires get that hot the amy break and loose the connection.
I think all the safety features that are setup and in place but were ignored. Luckly no body got hurt.
Just my opion.
Its not about heat -- its about pressure... He put a blow-down tube fitting on the bottle, and instead of removing the disc that came with it and using the one with the fitting -- I heard he installed BOTH. The disc is designed to fail before the bottle does, but when you put two in place it won't rupture at the proper pressure..
So we have a bottle heater that runs on pressure, but can't read pressure because the bottle valve is closed (mistake 1). He has the heater wired up so it can be left on with the key off (mistake 2). He had the bottle heater wired to a switch in some way he didn't notice to turn it off when not using it (mistake 3). He defeated the single most important safety feature of the bottle - the burst disc (mistake 4).
So we have a bottle heater that runs on pressure, but can't read pressure because the bottle valve is closed (mistake 1). He has the heater wired up so it can be left on with the key off (mistake 2). He had the bottle heater wired to a switch in some way he didn't notice to turn it off when not using it (mistake 3). He defeated the single most important safety feature of the bottle - the burst disc (mistake 4).
Originally Posted by OneMeanZ
So really, this would never happen to someone who knew even the slightest bit what they were doing right? Because it sounds like he had it coming to him....
I read that site a few years back, and if memory serves me correct some info has been taken down, most likely at 'councils' request, about mistakes he made.
Ryan.
<-- got a 2004 loaded maxima here... never think of the bottle on it. 
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From: H-town
uh oh, i just remembered that i have two full bottles on nitrous in my Black SS that is sitting in the sun with the windows closed and it is 95 degrees outside right now. i better take them out.
I thought bottles could only blow up on rice cars if a chinese gang on motorcycles shoots up the car with Mac-10's ....guess I was wrong...this poor Maxima guy didn't even have Vin Diesel to yell "Naws!" Poor guy, I sure hope NX buys him everything he wants, like a vtech turbo ********** or whatever he may want.
Originally Posted by Brains
Its not about heat -- its about pressure... He put a blow-down tube fitting on the bottle, and instead of removing the disc that came with it and using the one with the fitting -- I heard he installed BOTH. The disc is designed to fail before the bottle does, but when you put two in place it won't rupture at the proper pressure..
He defeated the single most important safety feature of the bottle - the burst disc (mistake 4).
He defeated the single most important safety feature of the bottle - the burst disc (mistake 4).
I have an NX bottle in my car and to install the blowdown tube I have to remove the original pressure release and replace it with the one that came from the NX upgrade kit.
This guy is obviously clueless.Did he not get instructions with the kit?
