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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elephantrider
i'll jump in. about to put a proton kit on my m6 ls1 gto.
i have ms3 cam
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42lb green tops
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twin disc clutch

was thinking about changing up the cam, but if the powers that
be think the ms3 cam would work well in the upper rpm ranges
with spray, i may keep it in there.
The MS3 is a pretty good off the shelf cam, but a custom grind is the way to go really.

Wider lobe separations and longer exhaust durations will help out tremendously with the tuning window and performance. I would always go with a custom grind over an off the shelf if it makes sense.

I would talk to Brian (Brian Tolley Racing) and see if it would make sense with your build to switch to a custom gride or just wait until you go with a new motor or make a head change.

I would save up for some good heads, the casting and the power is a world of a difference. That afetrmarket casting will take the heat and stress a lot better than the factory casting.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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FYI I know your fuel injected but on my carb 6.0 I made 440 to the wheels and on a 100 shot car made 597 to the wheels. Stinger plate FTW!!!
My cam is a Futral cam spec to my setup
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
Doesn't the NOS mini have a built in window switch?
Sure does!
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG COUNTRY
FYI I know your fuel injected but on my carb 6.0 I made 440 to the wheels and on a 100 shot car made 597 to the wheels. Stinger plate FTW!!!
My cam is a Futral cam spec to my setup
And that is the key, that cam means everything. Hell, if you have bull horns or have the exhuast dumbed right after the headers. You can get some nice candles with the right cam which will tell you if you are fat or the tune up is on, not just help with performance. I like bull horns as they are great for tuning and it helps with keeping the car planted.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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okay thanks for the info, aj !

big country - if i make close to 600 on a 100 shot,
i'd be more than happy.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
Sure does!
Link to the unit?
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Whisper
Link to the unit?
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/electro...ontroller.html

Check it out!
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 02:15 AM
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To avoid creating a new thread, I have heard that some shots are too 'small' for direct port. If someone were interested in getting Direct Port for its safety and tuning ability, what would be the smallest shot recommended for a H/C LS6? DO you have to spray at least 200?
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Whisper
To avoid creating a new thread, I have heard that some shots are too 'small' for direct port. If someone were interested in getting Direct Port for its safety and tuning ability, what would be the smallest shot recommended for a H/C LS6? DO you have to spray at least 200?
It has to do more with the jet size on the fuel side, even more so if the system is set-up for high pressure. Because the i.d size of the jet becomes so small that something could actually clog the jet becuase the jet size is so small.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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If I have an engine that will be at 11.5:1 compression, would a wet kit spraying a 75-100 shot be safe on 93 pump gas?
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Whisper
If I have an engine that will be at 11.5:1 compression, would a wet kit spraying a 75-100 shot be safe on 93 pump gas?
Mine is 11.5:1 and I spray a 125 wet shot on 93...no issues whatsoever
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Mine is 11.5:1 and I spray a 125 wet shot on 93...no issues whatsoever
Thanks for the info. I have a thread going in Internal Engine asking the same thing. I am in heavy consideration of a set of AFR 205 heads and am aiming at 11.5-11.6 compression and if I consider nitrous, I want it to be absolutely safe.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Whisper
Thanks for the info. I have a thread going in Internal Engine asking the same thing. I am in heavy consideration of a set of AFR 205 heads and am aiming at 11.5-11.6 compression and if I consider nitrous, I want it to be absolutely safe.
Has anyone said that you cant do it? Because if so I'd disagree 100% with that lol. If the build and everything is done right you will be totally fine at that compression on at 75-100 shot on 93
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Has anyone said that you cant do it? Because if so I'd disagree 100% with that lol. If the build and everything is done right you will be totally fine at that compression on at 75-100 on 93
Nope, but some have brought up concerns with going too high NA and getting knock. And thats the last thing I want if I'm also considering nitrous in the future. I wanted to be sure that I might not need to lower compression or take additional precautions if I was considering the spray.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Whisper
Nope, but some have brought up concerns with going too high NA and getting knock. And thats the last thing I want if I'm also considering nitrous in the future. I wanted to be sure that I might not need to lower compression or take additional precautions if I was considering the spray.
Gotcha, and yes the knock part makes sense, and thats why I mention about the build being setup right. I understand your concern. I discussed this with my engine builder before I made a move on my setup. Some guys run 11.1 and get knock...some run 12.1 and dont...it's all in what parts are used, how its setup, etc....
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elephantrider
okay thanks for the info, aj !

big country - if i make close to 600 on a 100 shot,
i'd be more than happy.
He has a stinger plate which means he's running a single plane intake manifold. You won't see the same pick up with a plastic intake as he did with a single plane, but it won't be a slouch either.
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