Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Return for stand alone

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 17, 2016 | 08:05 PM
  #1  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default Return for stand alone

I am building my stand alone. I have a 1 gallon aluminum cell with a red holley pump. From what I red they said at a low pressure I won't need a return. The pump I have is max 7psi. Should I still run a return or should I be fine?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2016 | 08:29 PM
  #2  
LLLosingit's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,845
Likes: 487
From: Iowa
Default

In carb applications (not Nitrous) I never ran a return system and never had an issue, Most never even had a regulator.

Last edited by LLLosingit; Feb 17, 2016 at 08:34 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2016 | 08:31 PM
  #3  
LLLosingit's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,845
Likes: 487
From: Iowa
Default

This is from Holleys own instructions
12-801-1
Red Electric Fuel pump, Street Perf.
97 gph (free flow) 67 gph at 5 psi
Regulator not required for most applications

712-801-1
Red Electric Fuel Pump, Marine
97 gph (free flow) 67 gph at 5 psi
Regulator not required for most applications
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:37 AM
  #4  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default

So pretty much no regulator = no return is what they are saying.

Thanks for the help
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:39 AM
  #5  
dsadsdaiouser's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Default

We are the in the same situation with our C5 but instead of using a 1-gallon tank I have to use a 1-quart because of limited space and I'm also going to use the blue Holley pump which comes with a regulator. I did a lot of research and am not going to use a return line either.

Scott
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 12:19 PM
  #6  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default

Thanks for the info tar heel. I think I am still going to use a regulator anod gauge so I can dial in the exact pressure to possibly help with the tuning side of things.

Appreciate the help guys
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:55 AM
  #7  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default

Does anyone see a problem with mounting all of this in the back of the car. Where the t-tops go in? As long as I vent it properly.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:06 AM
  #8  
dsadsdaiouser's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Default

I don't see a problem with that as several guys do. Wouldn't it be easier/safer/cheaper to locate it in the engine compartment? I know the F-bodies have a ton more room than the Corvettes so that shouldn't be an issue!
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:15 AM
  #9  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default

I have a 1 gallon cell. With a external pump. I don't really want to relocate the battery due to having to install the switch threw the rear of the car. So I figured I would just put the stand alone in the rear. One guy said it may not be legal to run at the track due to having fuEl in the car with you..but he didn't know.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:57 AM
  #10  
dsadsdaiouser's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Default

I know when the NHRA Stock Eliminator guys with F-bodies put the fuel in the rear area they have to build some type of metal shield to protect the driver. I do know it can be done but you have some rules to consider. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with fuel in the cockpit in the case of a rollover, leak, etc.

Have you considered a smaller fuel cell? I'm restricted on space so I'm going to use a 1-quart Moroso aluminum overflow container.

Scott
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2016 | 04:42 AM
  #11  
Doug G's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,465
Likes: 192
From: Harford Co. Maryland
Default

1:5 FUEL SYSTEMS Location: All fuel tanks, lines, pumps, valves, etc. must be outside of the driver’s compartment and within the confines of the frame and/or steel body. Cool cans, fuel-distribution blocks, etc. must be located at least 6 inches forward of the flywheel/bellhousing area on rear-wheel-drive (RWD) vehicles, and on opposite side of flywheel/housing area on front-wheel-drive (FWD) vehicles. Fuel pressure gauge isolators, with steel braided line, may be mounted on firewall.
A quick search

I have a cell, battery, and a bottle in the trunk.....had to "seal off" (build a real fire wall)
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2016 | 04:36 PM
  #12  
SprayedZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Nashville
Default

I am going to mount the standalone in where the two tops go. What size line are you guys running from stand alone to pump and pump to solonoid? The stand alone has 8an bungs welded into the tank which seem really large. Also will be running a low pressure pump 5-7psi
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2016 | 08:58 AM
  #13  
brandon@nitrousoutlet's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,479
Likes: 21
From: Waco, TX
Default

6an lines should be adequate. A return is really easy to set up and can result in more even fuel pressure. You can see some dead headed regulators pressure creep and then drop down to normal range when your fuel solenoid opens. Let us know if you need some help!
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2016 | 10:02 AM
  #14  
455GTO's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 17
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
6an lines should be adequate. A return is really easy to set up and can result in more even fuel pressure. You can see some dead headed regulators pressure creep and then drop down to normal range when your fuel solenoid opens. Let us know if you need some help!
Brandon,

In regards to your Fbody stand alone for the fuse panel area... Does your kit need a return line? It looks as if it just dead heads from the regulator to the noid... And there are 3 open ports on the regulator... One would go to the noid, the other gets capped and what about the other? Does that one get capped also?

Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2016 | 10:47 AM
  #15  
brandon@nitrousoutlet's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,479
Likes: 21
From: Waco, TX
Default

Originally Posted by 455GTO
Brandon,

In regards to your Fbody stand alone for the fuse panel area... Does your kit need a return line? It looks as if it just dead heads from the regulator to the noid... And there are 3 open ports on the regulator... One would go to the noid, the other gets capped and what about the other? Does that one get capped also?

Thanks
That dedicated fuel system actually has the return built in. If you look at the bottom of the regulator, it has the return going back into the tank. Typically, you wont need to put a return from the solenoid to the tank. I always recommend for customers to run the line from the regulator to the solenoid as short as possible. if you need any help or have questions feel free to ask!

Thanks!
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:07 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE