Screw the cam swap get nitrous instead?
Man look. A 5th gen has a less efficient trans and independent rear suspension. It’s more to it than weight. A 4th gen with an ls3 is a very formidable opponent. Is a lighter car, more aerodynamic, lighter and more efficient drive train. Lighter wheels and brakes. You can not compare the two. Even if a 4th gen is lighter by only 300lbs (3800 vs 3500 with is the weights of these two vehicles) the 4th gen with the same stuff done to it will walk all over a 5th gen. I’ve had both. The rotating mass on the 4th gen is much less. That accounts for much more than static weight. I didn’t think I’d have to explain all that, but this is the internet and as usual, someone will disagree.
Look guys, if you have to spray your car to beat a stock 5th gen or 5.0 and you are ok with that, then spray away until you run out. But I’d rather have the power out the time, not temporary power. All the time meaning a heads and cam car, supercharged or turbo charged.
Truth be told. I have a ls1 GTO. under dog for sure. 5.7 in a heavy, almost 5th weigh chassis. I don’t have a fighting chance with this little motor at full weight. I refuse to start stripping my nice daily driven capable vehicle to hang with late model cars. So I put a turbo on it. And now it’s barely faster than some really fast stock cars these days. And that bothers me. What would bother me even more is if I came across a mustang that’s bone stock with some girl driving and she put an *** whooping on me the first race and I had to spray her the next to beat her. What if I didn’t get that second chance? Then now I’m really bothered (yea I let **** get to me too much). But by doing what I did, it ensures that most stock cars around here won’t beat me. Except a new zr1 and demon. But I won’t bother picking on one of those.
Truth be told. I have a ls1 GTO. under dog for sure. 5.7 in a heavy, almost 5th weigh chassis. I don’t have a fighting chance with this little motor at full weight. I refuse to start stripping my nice daily driven capable vehicle to hang with late model cars. So I put a turbo on it. And now it’s barely faster than some really fast stock cars these days. And that bothers me. What would bother me even more is if I came across a mustang that’s bone stock with some girl driving and she put an *** whooping on me the first race and I had to spray her the next to beat her. What if I didn’t get that second chance? Then now I’m really bothered (yea I let **** get to me too much). But by doing what I did, it ensures that most stock cars around here won’t beat me. Except a new zr1 and demon. But I won’t bother picking on one of those.
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I believe that was with the stage2, not the ghost cam. And he has a FAST set up, PRC heads i think too. I did a lot of research on the cam and spoke to summit about it also. Of course i would/could get 100whp on a setup but then comes the stall and by the end of it id be in it too much. But it was my top choice as far as cams go.
Man look. A 5th gen has a less efficient trans and independent rear suspension. It’s more to it than weight. A 4th gen with an ls3 is a very formidable opponent. Is a lighter car, more aerodynamic, lighter and more efficient drive train. Lighter wheels and brakes. You can not compare the two. Even if a 4th gen is lighter by only 300lbs (3800 vs 3500 with is the weights of these two vehicles) the 4th gen with the same stuff done to it will walk all over a 5th gen. I’ve had both. The rotating mass on the 4th gen is much less. That accounts for much more than static weight. I didn’t think I’d have to explain all that, but this is the internet and as usual, someone will disagree.
I believe that was with the stage2, not the ghost cam. And he has a FAST set up, PRC heads i think too. I did a lot of research on the cam and spoke to summit about it also. Of course i would/could get 100whp on a setup but then comes the stall and by the end of it id be in it too much. But it was my top choice as far as cams go.
Btw, we all know that difference between good ls heads isn’t that huge. So you’ll still be making really good power. Your choice, but there’s no question in my mind what route I’d go.
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I've had heads and cam, cam only, turbo, 408 stroker w/nitrous, and now my first procharged setup. I'm really liking my current setup, but I think the 408 with nitrous was my favorite so far.
I got bone stock 02 trans am 29k miles only mods nx plate kit 150 shot with a lnc-2000 for timing and 15x10 mt drag radials and ran a 7.39 1/8 mile et and i whooped up on 5.0s with na and whipples dodge chargers challengers
Pull timing change plugs and spray away
Pull timing change plugs and spray away