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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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Good evening, After what started off a "cruiser" then road car, then wanting to make it a 1/2 mile car, now my goal is 200mph in the standing mile. I currently only have an HCI LS1. Please let me know what you guys think, My current setup is a S60 rear, 4.10s with spool, MT ET streets on 17 inch Welds. Gen 2 CTSv brakes, strange Driveshaft, , Full UMI suspension with SFC's. T56 with viper internals. Fuel system is E85 with a walboro 450. The motor I am planning to have built is a sleeved 427 with LS3 heads, Fast 102 (atleast 600rwhp) NA with a 300-350 shot on top of that. I do plan on adding an external trans cooler or pump. Full weight car with no backseats and an 8 point roll cage. Please let me know what you think about if it would be enough power, gearing, and trans will stay cool enough with extra pump? Any help on Aero would be great, plug up all holes in the front is what I mainly heard. Thank you in advance. Go easy on me I've spent weeks on the forums and hearing lots of info about this. I reached out to one guy on here that had a green F-body and did 202 in the standing but i believe he hasn't been on in a while. 01ZOH6 has been helpful in answering my questions but has only done the half and was in a c5.

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4.10s seem steep to me, but maybe it works out with the Viper gearing in the trans?
From what I've seen, you need to be capable of about 150 in the 1/4 mile to see 200 in the mile on a street type setup.
See what the guys who are trapping in that range make for power and you'll get an idea of where you need to be.
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LSX Power Tuning has 2 customers with C6 zo6's that go over 200 in the mile. I think they might be hitting it with more than 350 to get there, though.
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
LSX Power Tuning has 2 customers with C6 zo6's that go over 200 in the mile. I think they might be hitting it with more than 350 to get there, though.
What motor were they running and when did they start spraying?
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Old Sep 19, 2019 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport
4.10s seem steep to me, but maybe it works out with the Viper gearing in the trans?
From what I've seen, you need to be capable of about 150 in the 1/4 mile to see 200 in the mile on a street type setup.
See what the guys who are trapping in that range make for power and you'll get an idea of where you need to be.
Is there a way to calculate trans gearing? I got this transmission used and it was a solid 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by GHall8788
What motor were they running and when did they start spraying?
Not sure. He may come in and drop some details.
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Is there a way to calculate trans gearing? I got this transmission used and it was a solid 5 years ago.
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We had a nitrous C6 Z06 and a boosted C6 Z06 but last year switched the nitrous car to boost. We did run the nitrous Z06 for a few years before going boost.

We ran 210mph spraying 100 shot to 140 then 500 from 140mph the rest of the way. We made 1090rwhp on the 500.
Going off memory we broke 200mph with 600 rwhp and spraying 150 shot the whole way.

4.10 aren’t going to be that great I don’t think. Your going to go through in 5th and want to be close to redline in theory.
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We had a nitrous C6 Z06 and a boosted C6 Z06 but last year switched the nitrous car to boost. We did run the nitrous Z06 for a few years before going boost.

We ran 210mph spraying 100 shot to 140 then 500 from 140mph the rest of the way. We made 1090rwhp on the 500.
Going off memory we broke 200mph with 600 rwhp and spraying 150 shot the whole way.

4.10 aren’t going to be that great I don’t think. Your going to go through in 5th and want to be close to redline in theory.
Thats incredible. I know a c6 is better aero but I feel like an extra 150-200 shot could overcome that. What type of gears do you think? 3.73 or 3.42s? Also did you use two 15lb bottles? Stock style trans?
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Thats incredible. I know a c6 is better aero but I feel like an extra 150-200 shot could overcome that. What type of gears do you think? 3.73 or 3.42s? Also did you use two 15lb bottles? Stock style trans?

TURBO. less gear. lots of boost. Filling stupid bottles is for the birds.
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Originally Posted by GHall8788
Thats incredible. I know a c6 is better aero but I feel like an extra 150-200 shot could overcome that. What type of gears do you think? 3.73 or 3.42s? Also did you use two 15lb bottles? Stock style trans?

3.42 with a 26" tall tire in 5th gear would work pretty good. Im guessing around 800rwhp would get you there. When we sprayed 500 we had 2 15lb bottles but on 300 and less we ran a single 15lb. Our cars all have built trans from RPM but we knew we were going to be 1,000+hp is why we have them.
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TURBO. less gear. lots of boost. Filling stupid bottles is for the birds.
When we went from nitrous to boost, we took the Z06 back out at the same hp as it was on nitrous and ran the exact same mph at the mile. The difference is the amount of work it took to spray 500 for 18 seconds vs running boost the whole time. It took me twice as long to get the nitrous car ready and then the tune had to be way more precise. Another plus is boost is a little more forgiving, everytime the nitrous car would break something (broke 2 trans) you cold count it on smoking some pistons where on boost it wouldnt.
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TURBO. less gear. lots of boost. Filling stupid bottles is for the birds.
PFFTTT. How about turbo and nitrous
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Originally Posted by LSX Power Tuning
When we went from nitrous to boost, we took the Z06 back out at the same hp as it was on nitrous and ran the exact same mph at the mile. The difference is the amount of work it took to spray 500 for 18 seconds vs running boost the whole time. It took me twice as long to get the nitrous car ready and then the tune had to be way more precise. Another plus is boost is a little more forgiving, everytime the nitrous car would break something (broke 2 trans) you cold count it on smoking some pistons where on boost it wouldnt.

Exactly. Turbo does seem to be easier on stuff than nitrous is.
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
PFFTTT. How about turbo and nitrous
How about turbo and meth? Lol. I’m jabbing at you.
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How about turbo and meth? Lol. I’m jabbing at you.
Getting feisty on here lately....go finish your exhaust and leave the nitrous section alone
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Getting feisty on here lately....go finish your exhaust and leave the nitrous section alone

Im flocking bored dude. I’m waiting on my damn mandrel bends which finally will be here today. I’m just jabbin at the nitrous guys, passing time lol
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Im flocking bored dude. I’m waiting on my damn mandrel bends which finally will be here today. I’m just jabbin at the nitrous guys, passing time lol
Well in that case.....cutout>all
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
PFFTTT. How about turbo and nitrous

Thats the ticket right there! Depending on how we run next month with the new F1X we will add a fogger if we come up short.
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[QUOTE=LSX Power Tuning;20150615]When we went from nitrous to boost, we took the Z06 back out at the same hp as it was on nitrous and ran the exact same mph at the mile. The difference is the amount of work it took to spray 500 for 18 seconds vs running boost the whole time. It took me twice as long to get the nitrous car ready and then the tune had to be way more precise. Another plus is boost is a little more forgiving, everytime the nitrous car would break something (broke 2 trans) you cold count it on smoking some pistons where on boost it wouldnt.[/QUOTE

Might I add I just want to hit this goal one time, not competition or multiple times. Ive had turbo and supercharged cars and I want a nitrous car. I love nitrous so that’s why I want to, I know turbo would be better. With that being said, what trans did you break and why? And when it broke why did it fry the pistons, and what pistons?

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