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I need to know... We have a local guy who claims to only have sprayed a 100 shot on his H/C Z06 and he ran a 10.7 at 135mph. What bothers me is he ran a best mph of 122mph NA at 11.4. How much do you think he was spraying?
its probably possible w/ slicks and 5k launch on N2O...... he picked up .7 going that fast is alot but w/ the heads and proper cam a loley ol' 100 shot could be possible, or he may have just taken the jets out all together......
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He was on ET Streets. 13mph is a lot to gain on a lowly 100 shot. Hell a local car just recently went from 121 to 128mph on the same shot with a bigger motor.
I gained 13 mph on a 100 shot at the track once. I had the timing pulled on the na run and the n20 run. Went 12.7@109, then 11.22@122 on the 100 shot. People seen the s-10 at m9 go 12.9@108 then 10.64@126 on the 170 shot. So I think it is very possible he was telling the truth. Also remeber a z06 is very light so 100 hp will take a greater affect then on a heavier vehicle.
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My problem with this is a FRC running a 150 shot ran 130mph and that car ran the same mph NA as the Z06. This guy did not reduce any timing either. He raced another local car on the street that dyno'd 660rwhp on the spray and he was able to beat that car. The car he raced was probably 3450lbs raceweight to his probably 3300lb raceweight. Both cars dyno almost the same NA. Both cars running TEA heads. We have another local car running approx 600rwhp in a F-body trapping 138mph on a 200 shot with a better nitrous setup. I just have a problem believing a car with compression around 12.1:1, running no race gas, on a hot Florida day, with no timing retarded can run 135mph on a 100 shot when he ONLY ran 122mph NA. This tells me this car with a 200 shot will trap 145mph...
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um who actually tells the truth about the amount they spray anyways Vince? and if you are talking about who i think you are talking about, he has not told the whole truth about his setup in teh past.
a TNT 100 shot will gain about 120 rwhp. ofcourse it could just be a 150 shot he calls a 100. lol. just look at the end result. if it doesnt add up, just chalk it up to lies and call it a day.
a TNT 100 shot will gain about 120 rwhp. ofcourse it could just be a 150 shot he calls a 100. lol. just look at the end result. if it doesnt add up, just chalk it up to lies and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
um who actually tells the truth about the amount they spray anyways Vince? and if you are talking about who i think you are talking about, he has not told the whole truth about his setup in teh past.
a TNT 100 shot will gain about 120 rwhp. ofcourse it could just be a 150 shot he calls a 100. lol. just look at the end result. if it doesnt add up, just chalk it up to lies and call it a day.
a TNT 100 shot will gain about 120 rwhp. ofcourse it could just be a 150 shot he calls a 100. lol. just look at the end result. if it doesnt add up, just chalk it up to lies and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by WiseGuyZ
Well my car ran 11.1@123 N/A and on a TNT 100 shot it ran 10.3@132 with shitty ET streets on it at atco. I have a Cartek stage 2X H/C Z06
Vince...you dont expect him to actually KNOW what size shot he was spraying??? Lol..He has never dynoed on the spray...he has no bottle pressure gauge and heats the bottle with a torch. We are talking dry shot too. I bet its a pill for about 125 thats been drilled out a bit with 1250 psi bottle pressure. In other words...he has absolutely no clue what size shot that was. If he picked up 13 mph...id say it was a solid 150-160 extra RWHP.
Why don't you ask him if he's lying? A Z06 can easly have a race weight of 3000lb or so. But, who cares, with a good driver a Z06 bone stock can run in the 11's. Was the NA run the same day? It's just one more indication of what the LS6 Z06 is capable of doing.
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Why don't you ask him if he's lying? A Z06 can easly have a race weight of 3000lb or so. But, who cares, with a good driver a Z06 bone stock can run in the 11's. Was the NA run the same day? It's just one more indication of what the LS6 Z06 is capable of doing.
LOL...the Z06 is a very capable car. But it doesnt go from 120-122mph to 135mph on an NOS 100 shot pill (approx 75 to the tires).
Whats more likely...this particular Z06 is a freak of nature that picks up 13-15 mph with an additional 75-100 hp.
or
He doesnt really know what size shot he is spraying and was probably spraying more than he thought.
Considering he has never known what PSI he was spraying at due to no bottle pressure gauge, doesnt really know what pill size = what shot size...and has never dynoed to find out what he is actually gaining on specific pill sizes, heats the bottle with a torch until he "thinks" the pressure is good...id say the latter.
Let me ask this....if he has never dynoed on the spray...and he is usuing NOS dry jets (which he is) and has never known what his bottle pressure is (pressure = HP on a dry kit) how in the hell is he so confidant that it was exactly a 100 shot. Is he going by jet size? we all know NOS jets are underrated...so is he talking crank HP 100 shot or rear wheel 100 shot? If its rear wheel...how did he come to that conclusion? Through extensive dyno testing...oh...thats right...never been to the dyno. I know the Z06 owner well...and he has gotten very lucky so far. I have never seen someone so blindly operate a nitrous kit and stay in one piece. he is one lucky SOB.
Simple fact...he was spraying more than a 100 shot.
Whats more likely...this particular Z06 is a freak of nature that picks up 13-15 mph with an additional 75-100 hp.
or
He doesnt really know what size shot he is spraying and was probably spraying more than he thought.
Considering he has never known what PSI he was spraying at due to no bottle pressure gauge, doesnt really know what pill size = what shot size...and has never dynoed to find out what he is actually gaining on specific pill sizes, heats the bottle with a torch until he "thinks" the pressure is good...id say the latter.
Let me ask this....if he has never dynoed on the spray...and he is usuing NOS dry jets (which he is) and has never known what his bottle pressure is (pressure = HP on a dry kit) how in the hell is he so confidant that it was exactly a 100 shot. Is he going by jet size? we all know NOS jets are underrated...so is he talking crank HP 100 shot or rear wheel 100 shot? If its rear wheel...how did he come to that conclusion? Through extensive dyno testing...oh...thats right...never been to the dyno. I know the Z06 owner well...and he has gotten very lucky so far. I have never seen someone so blindly operate a nitrous kit and stay in one piece. he is one lucky SOB.
Simple fact...he was spraying more than a 100 shot.