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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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How can you build a standalone fuel system using the stock fuel tank? I know I have seen a few people do this...
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Just run lines to your stock tank instead of the 1 or 2 gallon fuel cell. You'd have to have some kinda sump and return, but I don't think it would be any diffrent than having a fuel cell up front. Just more line. It would be very easy with a metal tank, but a plastic tank would be a little more triky. You might have to think fo a minute on the plastic.
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
Just run lines to your stock tank instead of the 1 or 2 gallon fuel cell. You'd have to have some kinda sump and return, but I don't think it would be any diffrent than having a fuel cell up front. Just more line. It would be very easy with a metal tank, but a plastic tank would be a little more triky. You might have to think fo a minute on the plastic.
What he said. I did my own sorta sump setup by welding two -10 bulkhead fittings onto the tank and one goes to the nitrous fuel pump and the other to the motor fuel pump.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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A stand alone fuel system would allow you to run high octane gas. This is a major plus to me. Plus, I feel (probably in the minority) that its easier to tune a low pressure nitrous setup vs a high pressure.

I plan on doing something like this...
http://www.cofba.org/users/reckless/dp_fuel.html
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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In my opinion a stand alone fuel system is a very good way to go. They are not that expensive to do either. It will also allow you to run a higher octance gas in the nitrous cell. We can put together a stand alone system for right around $450 or so with everything you need to make it work, including tank, lines & fittings. Good luck with your project.

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@AP-Engineering
In my opinion a stand alone fuel system is a very good way to go. They are not that expensive to do either. It will also allow you to run a higher octance gas in the nitrous cell. We can put together a stand alone system for right around $450 or so with everything you need to make it work, including tank, lines & fittings. Good luck with your project.

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What kind of tank do you use for the stand alone fuel system? I am thinking about this down the road. I use stock lines and rails, with SVO30 lb injectors, Walboro intank, boost-a-pump (not used/not necessary). I use a can of TORCO ACCELERATOR with SUnoc 94 octane and have pulled 2 degree out for a 200 shot with no problems. Would like to hear/see more about your stand alone fuel system.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@AP-Engineering
In my opinion a stand alone fuel system is a very good way to go. They are not that expensive to do either. It will also allow you to run a higher octance gas in the nitrous cell. We can put together a stand alone system for right around $450 or so with everything you need to make it work, including tank, lines & fittings. Good luck with your project.

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Can you provide more details on your system? Also where in a C5 do you mount the fuel cell? Any pics would be great.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
How can you build a standalone fuel system using the stock fuel tank? I know I have seen a few people do this...
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I think Phil wants his Stock Gas Tank(s) Plumbed for a Stand Alone Fuel Sytem for his Nitrous setup Fellas instead of seperate Fuel Cells.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny p
I think Phil wants his Stock Gas Tank(s) Plumbed for a Stand Alone Fuel Sytem for his Nitrous setup Fellas instead of seperate Fuel Cells.
Exactly...
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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is the c5 tanks plastic or metal?

i have seen the stock tank with a sump on a fbody with a metal tank.

tyson made a replacement tank for a f-body, maybe see if he can fab one up for ya.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EVIL
is the c5 tanks plastic or metal?

i have seen the stock tank with a sump on a fbody with a metal tank.

tyson made a replacement tank for a f-body, maybe see if he can fab one up for ya.

Plastic, Thanks for the info.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@AP-Engineering
In my opinion a stand alone fuel system is a very good way to go. They are not that expensive to do either. It will also allow you to run a higher octance gas in the nitrous cell. We can put together a stand alone system for right around $450 or so with everything you need to make it work, including tank, lines & fittings. Good luck with your project.

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pming you on that
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Just put a 8an tank bung in your tank at the bottom or lower side towards back you can get them from jeg or summit its a fitting with two nylon washers and a nut for the inside of tank. This is the way mine is done and i drilled a 6an at the top of the tank for the return line worked out nice.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Ok, sorry Phil, maybe I am missing something but WTH would you want to run a piggyback fuel ssytem rather than a stand alone? Piggybacking off the stock tank will require you to use more race gas than traditional stand alone. I get the whole running a separate pump to keep from starving the rails and injectors, but just sounds like you could a helluva lot more with a stand alone.

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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I put my writeup back online. http://www.derty.org/photogallery/da...directport.htm

Also, here are some more pictures.
http://www.derty.org/photogallery/ca....php?cat_id=19
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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I like my stand alone, but if you want the stock tank Tuff said it, just tap off the tank, and run a feed to a pump and regulator, and into the noids.
should be pretty simple. just have to drop the tank.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny p
Plastic, Thanks for the info.
Did you buy 01-Z car or something?
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