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Jan 10, 2005 | 08:14 PM

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Lets discuss the new Maximizer? What do you recomend as option with the new NX MAximizer. Wideband 02? Controller? Dual solinoid driver harness? And any other things you can think of? The FJO website has alot of stuff but it isnt really explained well. I may want the nitrous pressure setup so I can datalog that too. Dont need a gauge...just datalog capabilties.

Nitro Dave...can you PM me with a price for all this. I will probably order from you next week.

Jan 10, 2005 | 08:59 PM

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The Maximizer comes pretty complete ready to use out of the box. It can be wired into a narrow band o2, comes with rpm rev limiter, some data logging, tps switch, different gear ramps forward or back ward and many others. To use the WB O2 you will need the FJO wide band unit. The programer is designed to work with a very specific type of signal. Also the current unit can drive 4 solenoids so I do not see a need for a Dual solenoid driver harness, need to check on that one. There nitrous pressure data logging is use in conjunction with there gauge. I will also check to see if it is possible to use the nitrous pressure data logging with out there gauge. All FJO units, guages, box, etc are designed to work with other FJO products. That way they can make sure of the quality and interfacing of each of there units.
So on Tuesday I will be checking with FJO on the aboved check on that one.
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Jan 10, 2005 | 09:32 PM

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Thanks Ricky...I cant wait to put it through its paces. I finally got my stage3+ heads from TEA friday. Everything is going together now.

Jan 11, 2005 | 08:13 PM

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Very interesting.. I am interested in this setup as well..

Jan 11, 2005 | 10:08 PM

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can someone post a link to the maximizer?

thanks
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Jan 11, 2005 | 10:25 PM

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Here you go.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...&section_id=24
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Jan 11, 2005 | 11:10 PM

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Hay taner di you ahppen to see the stock looking 96' S-10 at M9 that was in the quick 16? That was me, running a maximizer. All I have to say is buy it and never look back.

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Jan 12, 2005 | 06:11 PM

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Quit bragging Vince

My guess is you would set the nitrous to be 0% from say 3000 rpm to whatever the threshold rpm is that will make the gear counter work.

Jan 12, 2005 | 09:31 PM

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You could delay the nitrous system for a set amount of time or just leave it a a low flat %ramp for first gear and them slam it when you go into second. Now this only works from dead stop start...

I am going to find our PDA with the maximizer program on, and then try to post up a pic by pic program lesson on our website if that would help us all understand the unit more completely. This will be the time based one. It might take me a bit to put it all together. Yall interested.
You think I am from Texas using the word yall. lol
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Jan 12, 2005 | 09:39 PM

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Awesome..

Jan 12, 2005 | 09:56 PM

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Hay taner di you ahppen to see the stock looking 96' S-10 at M9 that was in the quick 16? That was me, running a maximizer. All I have to say is buy it and never look back.

cool.... i remeber the truck! so does it pulse the solenoids? if so i am not interested

i have heard that a progressive controller is hard on solenoids.

although its features are awesome! damn 640! oh well the good **** is never cheap

Jan 12, 2005 | 10:01 PM

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cool.... i remeber the truck! so does it pulse the solenoids? if so i am not interested

i have heard that a progressive controller is hard on solenoids.

All progressive units pulse the noids. Ours handle it nicely. And if you were our solenoids out. I will give you a new set. The old nitrous solenoids of the past used rubber on the piston and those could not happen the opening and closeing. That is why some companies use a back up noid. Ours are a teflon no problems here.

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Jan 13, 2005 | 08:49 AM

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You could delay the nitrous system for a set amount of time or just leave it a a low flat %ramp for first gear and them slam it when you go into second. Now this only works from dead stop start...

This is why they need tranny inputs... shhhh, don't let them hear me say that

lol

Jan 13, 2005 | 10:11 AM

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http://www.fjoracing.com/products/Maximizer/MMI0001%20rev%20C%20(Maximizer%20Installation%20Ma nual).pdf

Here is the link to the instruction booklet. I thought it might be better than my picture taking ability. Let me know if there is anything that might need more dicussion.

Ricky

Jan 13, 2005 | 10:30 AM

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You could delay the nitrous system for a set amount of time or just leave it a a low flat %ramp for first gear and them slam it when you go into second. Now this only works from dead stop start...

Actually, that's exactly what I do now. I first tried shooting right after the 1-2 shift but the lean spike was causing a nasty miss. The spike was pretty severe even though I was starting at 50% and ramping up from there. The problem was that the fuel rails that I have to feed the nitrous system (DP) would be empty at first and it took a split second for them to fill up. I ended up fixing it by shooting a smaller shot at 5000 in first which precharged the rails for me. Then when the bigger hit came after the 1-2 everything worked much better. The bottom line is that the Maximizer is a very nice and flexible tool.

John

Jan 13, 2005 | 12:13 PM

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I have the rails also. I figured I may end up running into a lean spike. So I do everything to prevent lean spikes. I have the fuel oid mounted directly to the rail and the I have a 3ft -4 line from the n20 noid to the rail. This gives the fuel a head start. Gotta figure 9psi vs. 1050 which is going to win the race to the cylinder. I also purge the fuel after a long time not spraying. I have a fitting right before the fuel noid to do this. I run everything of the a1000 pump with two regulators, one for spray and one for the carb.
I hope they offer a fuel noid offset for next season. i want to use one regulator insted of two, cause I want one boost refrenced regulator not two. I will be blowin thru the CSU 750 and sprayin too.
BTW, I get all getty like a school girl when I get to see Taner's car run. Cannot wait till m10.

Jan 13, 2005 | 02:36 PM

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So I do everything to prevent lean spikes. I have the fuel oid mounted directly to the rail and the I have a 3ft -4 line from the n20 noid to the rail.

Hmmm. That could be my mistake. As you can see by the picture below, I have both the fuel and the n2o noids directly on the rail. Do you think my situation would improve if I put a 3 foot line between the n20 noid and the rail? How well does that work for you? Just to clarify what's going on in the picture below, the braided line coming in on the right feeds the regular fuel injector rail (the other side of the motor is identical). When fuel comes out of the other side of the red rail, it hits the U-shaped aluminum tube, and comes up to feed the fuel noid. It tees off from there and heads back to the fuel pressure regulator.

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Gotta figure 9psi vs. 1050 which is going to win the race to the cylinder.

My fuel noid is run off of high pressure since it's a blown car. The FP is set to 54 static, and gets to 72 - 74 at full boost. But I agree. 75 psi is still nothing compared to 1050.

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I also purge the fuel after a long time not spraying. I have a fitting right before the fuel noid to do this.

I guess I don't need to do this since fuel is always flowing past the fuel noid whenever the motor is on.

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I run everything of the a1000 pump with two regulators, one for spray and one for the carb.

Single pump, single regulator. In this case a Weldon 2015.

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I hope they offer a fuel noid offset for next season. i want to use one regulator insted of two, cause I want one boost refrenced regulator not two.

I spoke to tech support at FJO about this. He told me that they had a few requests for this and are starting to talk about how to do it. It soulds like they're in the early stages, but definitely thinking about it.

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Jan 13, 2005 | 03:38 PM

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I get you on your fuel noid location. You are right you should not have to worry about purging the fuel. Allthough you migh benifit from a lead line on the n20 noid like I did. Some setups require a longer line and som a shorter one. Mine is perfect for me. Never had so much as a hiccup no matter what i spray. Goes straigh from 13:1 on the motor to 11.8-12.0:1 on the juice. Instantly. No bog or anything just a ton of power. I would definatly reccomend playing with a lead line. Nice looking setup BTW.

Maybe someday I will be a NX dealer,eh. I would just want to do installs though, no sellin just to sell.