How does the MAF compensate for the dry shot?
Originally Posted by Homeslice (tm)
lol Judging from the way your car runs, you might be better off spending some of that "Safe Money" on being a little more reckless.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalupa28/ws6atco.WMV
Now that's safe right thurr.... would want all that dangerous SPEED to cause problems.
Funny you have money for individual cylinder pyrometers but not enough for a roof there Safety Man... lol
Every part in your engine is eventually going to fail... better not even start the engine. Then it'll last forever.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalupa28/ws6atco.WMV
Now that's safe right thurr.... would want all that dangerous SPEED to cause problems.Funny you have money for individual cylinder pyrometers but not enough for a roof there Safety Man... lol
Every part in your engine is eventually going to fail... better not even start the engine. Then it'll last forever.
, you've got to be kidding me. Hey gerbil nuts, a vert cost more than a hardtop, so your money argument makes no sense. And safety?, dude I've beat the crap out of that car since it had 3miles on it. I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it. Like I said, Its obvious that everything fails, the object is to make it last as llong as possile, not take chances. The roof thing just cracks me up though, Ill give you that. By the way, wasn't Ron Duke's convertible the quickest LS1 for a little while there 
Thats what I thought. 
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
My car is slow, so what? A roof , you've got to be kidding me. Hey gerbil nuts, a vert cost more than a hardtop, so your money argument makes no sense. And safety?, dude I've beat the crap out of that car since it had 3miles on it. I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it. Like I said, Its obvious that everything fails, the object is to make it last as llong as possile, not take chances. The roof thing just cracks me up though, Ill give you that. By the way, wasn't Ron Duke's convertible the quickest LS1 for a little while there Thats what I thought.
, you've got to be kidding me. Hey gerbil nuts, a vert cost more than a hardtop, so your money argument makes no sense. And safety?, dude I've beat the crap out of that car since it had 3miles on it. I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it. Like I said, Its obvious that everything fails, the object is to make it last as llong as possile, not take chances. The roof thing just cracks me up though, Ill give you that. By the way, wasn't Ron Duke's convertible the quickest LS1 for a little while there Thats what I thought.
Don't run the stock injectors because it's not safe fro your motor. See, look how safe I am as I race my car with fabric over my head. All this safety talk from a guy who "beats" on his car and didn't buy it to be safe. So what's so special about fuel injectors that you'll beat on every other aspect of your car?
Look just admit you are here just because we spanked your ford driving little brother around for being a dumbass and came running in to rescue him. Fact is that my bone stock LS1 will be right there with you with all your "safety" time and time again and does it on not only "stock" injectors... but stock injectors with 70,000 miles on them time and again. And as far as your 500 lbs less and 50 hp less comments, I'm on a stock converter and mufflers, with no head work and no cam on an old LS1 intake. Oh yeah and I fucked up the launch and put down a 1.74 60' in 90+ degree heat and terrible DA. What was yours? So we run the same only I paid a lot less... hmm well brag away.
Why don't you post the finish to that run so we can see that ET?
Last edited by Homeslice (tm); Feb 11, 2005 at 03:05 PM.
Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
Actually it was decided with pyrometers in each header tube, yes thats 8 of them, then switched injectors around and the same problem happened in the new cylinder. You guys are too funny though.
so how about you get a pic of your 8-tube meter with a note with todays date to prove you're not bullshitting us?
I use thermocouples myself, but how are you supposing to prove that duty cycle had anything to do with your injector failing? So you got a bad injector... that happens sometimes.
You'll never prove it. All you can do is keep making up your crap stories.
Also don't tell me you went to the trouble of 8 pyrometers and did all that testing so you can barely break into the elevens. That's hilarious. I figured with as much B.S. as you spout off you would have at least had something fast.
Whoever was driving in that video can't drive for ****, but I'm sure you'll either blame that on someone else, or maybe the injector duty cycle.
And yes it is slow, so remove all doubt.
Homeslice's 11.0 pass was also slow, but just decent for a almost stock daily driver.
I think I know now why you've been crying so much. It's probably because you worked harder and spent many times the amount of money to run slower than his vette.
Now here's a quote from you
"I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it."
okay so why don't you just drop it with all your safety b.s. then?
From the looks of your pathetic run, you need to be concentrating on other things.
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
Hey gerbil nuts, a vert cost more than a hardtop, so your money argument makes no sense.
Well Victoria Secret panties cost more than my Hanes briefs... but if I wore them, I'd still be gay. Too bad fuel injectors don't come with lace.
Last edited by Homeslice (tm); Feb 11, 2005 at 03:31 PM.
Originally Posted by Homeslice (tm)
You are just all about my nuts, aren't you lol
Well Victoria Secret panties cost more than my Hanes briefs... but if I wore them, I'd still be gay. Too bad fuel injectors don't come with lace.
Well Victoria Secret panties cost more than my Hanes briefs... but if I wore them, I'd still be gay. Too bad fuel injectors don't come with lace.
hahaha his car costs more than yours and his injectors cost more than yours. You don't even have a thermocouple in every header tube so you can't go fast. You're just a loser.
I think after 7 pages of technical discussion we've determined that you CANNOT safely spray through the MAF, and you CANNOT race your car unless you upgrade the injectors... it just doesn't work.
We also learned that a high 11 second ram-air car will totally destroy an 03 cobra (both having huge injectors).
Homeslice, just go ahead and put in bigger injectors so you can add it to your cool "mod list" in your sig.
With the extra $2100 you save from buying injectors and not blowing your engine, you could invest in a nifty ram-air setup for you car so you can take advantage of the atmosphere ramming that other cars trapping around 115 are doing.
And for God's sake be careful out there! slow that thing down or get a parachute on there in case your brakes fail from working them over 85%.
Also good idea to lower your fuel pressure and the voltage going to the pump, because those things overwork the pump and cause it to fail which could blow your engine up. You know how those damn electronic motors are.
Last edited by white2001s10; Feb 11, 2005 at 04:06 PM.
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Originally Posted by 5.8litrels1eater
Like I said, your car, do what you want. I could care less, other than you are stating OBVIOUS WRONG information.
This is probably one of the best threads in LS1Tech history because someone is thinking "outside the box" and doing something no one else does. WTF I don't even know what to say to this mindless babble. Dude, my car cost less then a vette, it is all stock with a lid and cutout and bigger injectors, thats it. Same LS1 intake your car has on it, stock cam, stock heads, stock everything in that vid. Its a 2000 with 75,000 daily driven miles on it, Anyone that thinks bigger injectors make your car faster is a bigger tool than you three so I'm not quite sure where you were going with that one. Fabric over my head????? You sound more safety conscience than me right now. Like I said earlier, Ronnie duke had no problems going 8's in a vert so why the hell would I worry .
I don't even know what to say to this mindless babble. Dude, my car cost less then a vette, it is all stock with a lid and cutout and bigger injectors, thats it. Same LS1 intake your car has on it, stock cam, stock heads, stock everything in that vid. Its a 2000 with 75,000 daily driven miles on it, Anyone that thinks bigger injectors make your car faster is a bigger tool than you three so I'm not quite sure where you were going with that one. Fabric over my head????? You sound more safety conscience than me right now. Like I said earlier, Ronnie duke had no problems going 8's in a vert so why the hell would I worry . LS1 Tech Stories
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
Pyro- meter? wtf
so how about you get a pic of your 8-tube meter with a note with todays date to prove you're not bullshitting us?
I use thermocouples myself, but how are you supposing to prove that duty cycle had anything to do with your injector failing? So you got a bad injector... that happens sometimes.
You'll never prove it. All you can do is keep making up your crap stories.
Also don't tell me you went to the trouble of 8 pyrometers and did all that testing so you can barely break into the elevens. That's hilarious. I figured with as much B.S. as you spout off you would have at least had something fast.
Whoever was driving in that video can't drive for ****, but I'm sure you'll either blame that on someone else, or maybe the injector duty cycle.
And yes it is slow, so remove all doubt.
Homeslice's 11.0 pass was also slow, but just decent for a almost stock daily driver.
I think I know now why you've been crying so much. It's probably because you worked harder and spent many times the amount of money to run slower than his vette.
Now here's a quote from you
"I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it."
okay so why don't you just drop it with all your safety b.s. then?
From the looks of your pathetic run, you need to be concentrating on other things.
so how about you get a pic of your 8-tube meter with a note with todays date to prove you're not bullshitting us?
I use thermocouples myself, but how are you supposing to prove that duty cycle had anything to do with your injector failing? So you got a bad injector... that happens sometimes.
You'll never prove it. All you can do is keep making up your crap stories.
Also don't tell me you went to the trouble of 8 pyrometers and did all that testing so you can barely break into the elevens. That's hilarious. I figured with as much B.S. as you spout off you would have at least had something fast.
Whoever was driving in that video can't drive for ****, but I'm sure you'll either blame that on someone else, or maybe the injector duty cycle.
And yes it is slow, so remove all doubt.
Homeslice's 11.0 pass was also slow, but just decent for a almost stock daily driver.
I think I know now why you've been crying so much. It's probably because you worked harder and spent many times the amount of money to run slower than his vette.
Now here's a quote from you
"I didn't buy it to be safe, I bought it to whoop on it."
okay so why don't you just drop it with all your safety b.s. then?
From the looks of your pathetic run, you need to be concentrating on other things.
"Hooked on phonics works for me"
Where did I say that I had this setup on a LS1??? Point that out for me. It was on a car that was just a tad quicker than 11's too, there Cledus. If you dont know what a pyrometer is than I know you're full of **** now. So what you just throw those thermocouples in the exhaust and they whisper the temps to you?
I can pretty much pinpoint it on duty cycle because I was monitoring that along with egt's and when I got to 95%+ duty cycle it is when it started acting up on me. Im sure if I wanted to be stupid and ASSume it was just a bad injector and throw another undersized one in there I would have eventually found out the same thing. Why chance it for a measley couple hundred bucks???? Thats just stupid. You can think Im b.s.ing all you want, I really dont care. The funny thing is that the only people agreeing with you are your butt-buddies from the farm out there in illinois. Cant drive for ****, thats just funny. Too bad you are out there milking cows, or I'd love to have a little competition with ya. Sorry, but I dont know of many showroom stock WS6 verts that ran 12.87's, do you? You just sound jealous now. And again, my car in that vid is just as stock as your boy's car. Last, safety b.s.???? I only race at atco, because they are the most lenient on safety. What safety items do I have???? You sheep-******* make less and less sense to me
Originally Posted by white2001s10
hahaha his car costs more than yours and his injectors cost more than yours. You don't even have a thermocouple in every header tube so you can't go fast. You're just a loser.
I think after 7 pages of technical discussion we've determined that you CANNOT safely spray through the MAF, and you CANNOT race your car unless you upgrade the injectors... it just doesn't work.
We also learned that a high 11 second ram-air car will totally destroy an 03 cobra (both having huge injectors).
Homeslice, just go ahead and put in bigger injectors so you can add it to your cool "mod list" in your sig.
With the extra $2100 you save from buying injectors and not blowing your engine, you could invest in a nifty ram-air setup for you car so you can take advantage of the atmosphere ramming that other cars trapping around 115 are doing.
And for God's sake be careful out there! slow that thing down or get a parachute on there in case your brakes fail from working them over 85%.
Also good idea to lower your fuel pressure and the voltage going to the pump, because those things overwork the pump and cause it to fail which could blow your engine up. You know how those damn electronic motors are.
I think after 7 pages of technical discussion we've determined that you CANNOT safely spray through the MAF, and you CANNOT race your car unless you upgrade the injectors... it just doesn't work.
We also learned that a high 11 second ram-air car will totally destroy an 03 cobra (both having huge injectors).
Homeslice, just go ahead and put in bigger injectors so you can add it to your cool "mod list" in your sig.
With the extra $2100 you save from buying injectors and not blowing your engine, you could invest in a nifty ram-air setup for you car so you can take advantage of the atmosphere ramming that other cars trapping around 115 are doing.
And for God's sake be careful out there! slow that thing down or get a parachute on there in case your brakes fail from working them over 85%.
Also good idea to lower your fuel pressure and the voltage going to the pump, because those things overwork the pump and cause it to fail which could blow your engine up. You know how those damn electronic motors are.
Thermocouples were in my old car, a race car, Something I used to tune with. I've also been spraying through the maf for quite some time now, so I don't know what you mean there, and guess what, I sprayed on stock injectors too, until I decided to upgrade for my own piece of mind. I mean why cheap out on something thats relatively cheap anyway. Low 11's there captain 
. Cool mod list??? I'm sorry, I didn't realize I had one of them As to the rest of your story, 
You make less and less sense.
Originally Posted by PlowTown Missile
You don't have a clue what your talking about. I've seen this car at the track many times and it does what he claims. Just because your not smart enough to have figured it out doesn't mean you have to call him a liar. Instead of calling BS on him, why don't you just ask him some questions and actually learn something. Homeslice and the rest of the Team R&J guys are extremely intelligent. I used to call BS on some of the other team members before until I started listening and trying their advice. Now I have a '99 Z28 auto with a couple (no pulley or LS6 intake) bolt-ons and a 150 NX wet-kit that pulls the front tires ON THE STREET on the motor on 275/50R15 Nitto DR's with the only alteration to the suspension being boxed stock LCA's This is probably one of the best threads in LS1Tech history because someone is thinking "outside the box" and doing something no one else does.
This is probably one of the best threads in LS1Tech history because someone is thinking "outside the box" and doing something no one else does.
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
WTF I don't even know what to say to this mindless babble. Dude, my car cost less then a vette, it is all stock with a lid and cutout and bigger injectors, thats it. Same LS1 intake your car has on it, stock cam, stock heads, stock everything in that vid. Its a 2000 with 75,000 daily driven miles on it, Anyone that thinks bigger injectors make your car faster is a bigger tool than you three so I'm not quite sure where you were going with that one. Fabric over my head????? You sound more safety conscience than me right now. Like I said earlier, Ronnie duke had no problems going 8's in a vert so why the hell would I worry .
I don't even know what to say to this mindless babble. Dude, my car cost less then a vette, it is all stock with a lid and cutout and bigger injectors, thats it. Same LS1 intake your car has on it, stock cam, stock heads, stock everything in that vid. Its a 2000 with 75,000 daily driven miles on it, Anyone that thinks bigger injectors make your car faster is a bigger tool than you three so I'm not quite sure where you were going with that one. Fabric over my head????? You sound more safety conscience than me right now. Like I said earlier, Ronnie duke had no problems going 8's in a vert so why the hell would I worry .
Originally Posted by PlowTown Missile
He means that your using bigger injectors cause your scared and need to feel safe. He's not talking about the fact you own a 'vert
Read his posts, yes he was
Originally Posted by Homeslice (tm)
Don't run the stock injectors because it's not safe fro your motor. See, look how safe I am as I race my car with fabric over my head. All this safety talk from a guy who "beats" on his car and didn't buy it to be safe. So what's so special about fuel injectors that you'll beat on every other aspect of your car?
There, see??
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
I don't know where you came from Jeb, but I never questioned or doubted his times. Ive ran close to the same on my own. I've never called bs on any performance numbers they claimed, so what exactly am I suppose to learn? All I did was disagree with their theory on injectors. They are the ones that turned it personal. It seems to me that your boy homeslice is the test dummy, and his boy is the one with 1/4 of a brain that comes up with these ideas to try out on his buddies car. Homeslice comes on here and just talks, then waits for white to back him up with these theories. Its blatantly clear that homeslice has no idea of what he is talking about, just repeating what he thought he heard his buddy say. White seems semi-intelligent but he has this whacked conspiracy theory that hot rod magazine or whoever made up duty cycle so that we would all go to bosch, delphi, siemens, etc to buy their bigger injectors. If that is not the dumbest thing you ever heard then I dont know what to tell ya.
If that is not the dumbest thing you ever heard then I dont know what to tell ya.One of their (Team R&J) suggestions was to manually lock up my converter (Vig 3600) in the 1/4. While most people in STL were swinging on Yank's nuts, they were using Vigs and locking them up to make them just as efficient as the more expensive (about twice as much) Yank converters. From their "crazy" suggestion, I picked up 2mph in the 1/4 with no other changes
Originally Posted by PlowTown Missile
All the guys cars on their team are test cars: TA2SLOW, ODB, Badass2002Z28, Homeslice, Nice4thgenZ, Anil8u, etc. They come up with some ideas and test them out. If it works, great. If not, they try something else.
One of their (Team R&J) suggestions was to manually lock up my converter (Vig 3600) in the 1/4. While most people in STL were swinging on Yank's nuts, they were using Vigs and locking them up to make them just as efficient as the more expensive (about twice as much) Yank converters. From their "crazy" suggestion, I picked up 2mph in the 1/4 with no other changes
One of their (Team R&J) suggestions was to manually lock up my converter (Vig 3600) in the 1/4. While most people in STL were swinging on Yank's nuts, they were using Vigs and locking them up to make them just as efficient as the more expensive (about twice as much) Yank converters. From their "crazy" suggestion, I picked up 2mph in the 1/4 with no other changes
I was doing that 10 yrs ago with my paxton powered v-10 dodge pickup truck. Thats been done since lockup tc's came out. TECH Veteran
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Originally Posted by TripleBlackRamAirT/A
Wow, thats creative locking up the tc like that I was doing that 10 yrs ago with my paxton powered v-10 dodge pickup truck. Thats been done since lockup tc's came out.
I was doing that 10 yrs ago with my paxton powered v-10 dodge pickup truck. Thats been done since lockup tc's came out.
