2 stage upgrade
2 stage upgrade I have a tnt f1 kit and i would like to have another nozzle whith maybe a 50 shot in it.....
Basically I think I would need some fittings, 1 fuel 1 nitrous soleniods, and nozzle is this all?
Any of you guys done it and have pics?
Anyone have any of this stuff extra around they want to sale.?
Basically I think I would need some fittings, 1 fuel 1 nitrous soleniods, and nozzle is this all?
Any of you guys done it and have pics?
Anyone have any of this stuff extra around they want to sale.?
1. spray nozzle
2. both lines from spray nozzle
3. 1 nitrous + 1 fuel soleniod (equaling 4 total on car)
4. 2 AN fitting y splitters
5. 2 more lines to split from (from y splitter connections to solenoids).
6. relay+ switch
From your main nitrous line you have to use the Y splitter and route off to both nitrous soleniods.
From your fuel bung or wherever you get your fuel from you have to use the y splitter, like you did on the nitrous.
This is a true dual stage setup. This is how i installed mine.
You can get a progressive controller. The only problem i see from these is the excessive wear they put on the soleniods. I would still like to have one. You just cant have cheap soleniods with a progressive controller.
No pics right now because my setup is out of the car at the moment.
2. both lines from spray nozzle
3. 1 nitrous + 1 fuel soleniod (equaling 4 total on car)
4. 2 AN fitting y splitters
5. 2 more lines to split from (from y splitter connections to solenoids).
6. relay+ switch
From your main nitrous line you have to use the Y splitter and route off to both nitrous soleniods.
From your fuel bung or wherever you get your fuel from you have to use the y splitter, like you did on the nitrous.
This is a true dual stage setup. This is how i installed mine.
You can get a progressive controller. The only problem i see from these is the excessive wear they put on the soleniods. I would still like to have one. You just cant have cheap soleniods with a progressive controller.
No pics right now because my setup is out of the car at the moment.
If you just plan to run a 50 shot off the other stage, why not just go dry. Nozzle is about $15, noid $75, probrably another $50-60 in lines, fittings, jet, and a relay. Cheap, easy and simple. 
Originally Posted by GM Muscle
If you just plan to run a 50 shot off the other stage, why not just go dry. Nozzle is about $15, noid $75, probrably another $50-60 in lines, fittings, jet, and a relay. Cheap, easy and simple.
with the tnt kit coudn't u just add an extra pair of selonoids nad spray using the current nozzles on the power ring? im confused i guess lol
i spray a 150 shot and think i could benefit if i brought 75-100 off the line and then 50-75 more in 10-30 ft out.. and definetly on the street were hooking up is important..
i dont want to use a 50 dry shot becuase im going to add a cam with stock injectors.. add in another 50hp and there bound to be maxed out right?
i spray a 150 shot and think i could benefit if i brought 75-100 off the line and then 50-75 more in 10-30 ft out.. and definetly on the street were hooking up is important..
i dont want to use a 50 dry shot becuase im going to add a cam with stock injectors.. add in another 50hp and there bound to be maxed out right?
Tiger, what is your desire with the nitrous? Is it to simply run two stages for bragging rights, for traction, for more nitrous flow, for better atomization of larger shots or what? This will kind of help determine a good route for you to take.
I personally think you can set-up a single nozzle to run up to a 200 shot just fine, but you need to be careful of rpm and other stuff so you dont have fuel puddling on the floor of the intake. If you wanted to run for traction, I would say invest in either a delay, or progressive controller. Although many ppl are worried about the abuse of pulsing a solenoid, much of it comes from the older design and wear-out of them using a controller, but companies such as NX will replace/repair for free, lifetime, like the Craftsman of Solenoids! A delay may be fit your needs also, which is as costly as $50 from places like Dyno-Tune (a sponsor)------------->
Anyway, lots of possibilities so let us know your goals.
Charlie
I personally think you can set-up a single nozzle to run up to a 200 shot just fine, but you need to be careful of rpm and other stuff so you dont have fuel puddling on the floor of the intake. If you wanted to run for traction, I would say invest in either a delay, or progressive controller. Although many ppl are worried about the abuse of pulsing a solenoid, much of it comes from the older design and wear-out of them using a controller, but companies such as NX will replace/repair for free, lifetime, like the Craftsman of Solenoids! A delay may be fit your needs also, which is as costly as $50 from places like Dyno-Tune (a sponsor)------------->
Anyway, lots of possibilities so let us know your goals.
Charlie
I think the main question here is how much are you willing to spend. That is gonna tell you kinda which way to lean. I personally hate buying things over, and so i splurge when i buy. I know that always insnt the best thing, but i do look out for the best deals. Like said dual stage will give you better street traction + it is easier on your car than 150 down low. I know NX repairs their solenoids , and i think that is a awsome thing, but if the soleniod fails & screws up your motor then what is a free solenoid.
The best thing to do is if you get a proggresive controller (which i would lean more and more towards if i had my money in hand now days.) is just check your solenoids periodicly , and break them down.
Honestly the NX solenoids seem heavier duty anyway.
The best thing to do is if you get a proggresive controller (which i would lean more and more towards if i had my money in hand now days.) is just check your solenoids periodicly , and break them down.
Honestly the NX solenoids seem heavier duty anyway.
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Basically i want it for how easy it would be to change from 50-100-150 all w/ the switch of a button rather than having to change the pills which isnt hard but if i get beat w/ the 100 than i can be like lets go again and see what happens w/ the 150. And then if i only need the 50 shot for someone else then I wont have to waste the 100 shot.
Traction may be a factor as well so that will be covered
I dont want a controller or anything because the base purpose is as stated above.
I did think about just using one of the nozzles onthe ring but didnt want to mess w/ how good it performs as of now.... imo and i may be wrong is that one reason tnt does so well is because it has 2 nozzles and it mixes and sprays better.
I was thinking about putting the other nozzle under the bellow or doing something so other wouldnt know about it. w/ the colder plugs and more restrictive ring i dont think my car runs as hard motor as it use to but maybe im wrong. so another reason i wanted a smaller shot is to make up for that when im not spraying the bigger shot. maybe keep a 35 in there.
Im about to buy bigger injecters anyway so i really like the idea of the dry shot and it could be easily hidden.
Traction may be a factor as well so that will be covered
I dont want a controller or anything because the base purpose is as stated above.
I did think about just using one of the nozzles onthe ring but didnt want to mess w/ how good it performs as of now.... imo and i may be wrong is that one reason tnt does so well is because it has 2 nozzles and it mixes and sprays better.
I was thinking about putting the other nozzle under the bellow or doing something so other wouldnt know about it. w/ the colder plugs and more restrictive ring i dont think my car runs as hard motor as it use to but maybe im wrong. so another reason i wanted a smaller shot is to make up for that when im not spraying the bigger shot. maybe keep a 35 in there.
Im about to buy bigger injecters anyway so i really like the idea of the dry shot and it could be easily hidden.
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I have an NX EFIDS, which is NX's dual stage add on kit, to convert a single over to a dual, i'm not sure if you even want to mix brands, or if they would even interchange. But i have that kit, and a brand new bottle boxed up ready to ship, let me know if your interested.
Originally Posted by ZYA_LTR
I have an NX EFIDS, which is NX's dual stage add on kit, to convert a single over to a dual, i'm not sure if you even want to mix brands, or if they would even interchange. But i have that kit, and a brand new bottle boxed up ready to ship, let me know if your interested.