TnT F1 kit...what else?
TnT F1 kit...what else? Hey guys. I play on getting the TNT F1 kit and spraying either a 100 or 150 shot on my car (Mods in sig). What else is mandatory to keep things running smoothly? (ie fuel pump, injectors, etc.?)
If its a wet kit you will need an intank 255lph fuel pump (either racetronix or walbro) if you go 150, Window switch, NGK TR6s for sparkplugs. Additional accessories you should get is a purge and bottle heater. FPSS is also optional.
is a window switch the same thing as a WOT switch? Whats a good purge and how much do they cost? What exactly is an FPSS? I knew once but forget, lol..and same question whats a good one and how much?
Also, if you are only spraying a 125 shot will stock fuel pump and injectors be fine on a 99 TA? what about 125 shot?
Also, if you are only spraying a 125 shot will stock fuel pump and injectors be fine on a 99 TA? what about 125 shot?
Window switches and Wide Open Throttle switches are not the same. A WOT switch will activate the system when you go wide open throttle but a window switch will actually control what RPMs your spraying at hence the window term. You'll want to spray from atleast 3K up and at the most about 200rpm before your limiter. I consider a window switch a must have. A Fuel Pressure Saftey Switch will shut down the system if the fuel pressure drops below the pre set limit, I've never had much luck with them but they are nice to have.
If it's a wet kit, your injectors won't come into play at all so there's no need to touch them. I'd replace teh pump with an intank unit if you plan to spray a 150 or more. Some people like to brag that they spray a 150 on the stock pump no problem but for the extra $110-250 and a few hours of your time it's stupid not to get one.
BTW: Chevy4Life, plan on spraying the 150 because it's just tempting to step up when your spraying a 100 shot. Like mentioned above, get some TR-6 plugs (or similar), window switch, an intank fuel pump, bottle heater, and you should be good to go. Also get the car on a wideband and pull the A/F ratio to see where your at once your up and running.
If it's a wet kit, your injectors won't come into play at all so there's no need to touch them. I'd replace teh pump with an intank unit if you plan to spray a 150 or more. Some people like to brag that they spray a 150 on the stock pump no problem but for the extra $110-250 and a few hours of your time it's stupid not to get one.
BTW: Chevy4Life, plan on spraying the 150 because it's just tempting to step up when your spraying a 100 shot. Like mentioned above, get some TR-6 plugs (or similar), window switch, an intank fuel pump, bottle heater, and you should be good to go. Also get the car on a wideband and pull the A/F ratio to see where your at once your up and running.
Last edited by GM Muscle; Apr 15, 2005 at 09:03 PM.
I'm in the same boat. Just bought a TNT F1 kit. I am also buying a MSD window switch and probably a bottle heater and possibly a purge and fpss. I plan to start out small just spraying a 75 shot for a while so I won't need a fuel pump yet.
But I have a few questions:
1)is a purge neccesary? What are the benefits? Does it matter which one should I get? Do I have to get a TNT one or do other parte like the NX parts work with TNT kits?
2)Is it fine to use stock plugs for now, only using the 75 shot?
3)Is an fpss really neccesary?
4) Will I need a switch panel? Or am I fine for a basic kit. How do I turn heater on and off? Does it come on and off automatically?
PS- I didn't make a seperate post since this was basically the same thing and figured chevy could probably benefit from responses to my questions anyway.
But I have a few questions:
1)is a purge neccesary? What are the benefits? Does it matter which one should I get? Do I have to get a TNT one or do other parte like the NX parts work with TNT kits?
2)Is it fine to use stock plugs for now, only using the 75 shot?
3)Is an fpss really neccesary?
4) Will I need a switch panel? Or am I fine for a basic kit. How do I turn heater on and off? Does it come on and off automatically?
PS- I didn't make a seperate post since this was basically the same thing and figured chevy could probably benefit from responses to my questions anyway.
Ok,
I normally suggest a intank fuel pump for anything over a 100 shot.(just like what was stated above).We sell the walboro for 125.00.
Yes even spraying a 75 shot you still need to change the spark plugs to NGK TR6
THe fuel pressure safety switch you do not have to run.However it is a nice safety precaution.If the fuel pressure drops it will kill the ground to the solenoids causing them not top work.
A switch panel is optional.It does make the install alot cleaner then a bunch of switches everywhere.
We carry two purges.
We carry the nitrous outlet Big show purge.Mention this post and Ill let you have it for 79.00
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...§ion_id=97
Or we carry the NX purge for 105.00 part number 15600
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...§ion_id=42
You can use a NX heater also.The way an automatic heater works is that once you activate the heater the pressure transducer reads the bottle pressure and turns off and on according to pressure.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Dave
I normally suggest a intank fuel pump for anything over a 100 shot.(just like what was stated above).We sell the walboro for 125.00.
Yes even spraying a 75 shot you still need to change the spark plugs to NGK TR6
THe fuel pressure safety switch you do not have to run.However it is a nice safety precaution.If the fuel pressure drops it will kill the ground to the solenoids causing them not top work.
A switch panel is optional.It does make the install alot cleaner then a bunch of switches everywhere.
We carry two purges.
We carry the nitrous outlet Big show purge.Mention this post and Ill let you have it for 79.00
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...§ion_id=97
Or we carry the NX purge for 105.00 part number 15600
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/outlet/...§ion_id=42
You can use a NX heater also.The way an automatic heater works is that once you activate the heater the pressure transducer reads the bottle pressure and turns off and on according to pressure.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Dave
Thanks Dave but can someone still answer more of my question # 1 also regarding the plugs do I really NEED the TR6 plugs to do a 75 shot. I plan on getting them but will I hurt something if I spray before that on stock plugs? I didn' tthink it would be that big of a deal...
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Stock plugs are gapped at like .060 or something like that. I think even with a 75 shot you might blow out the spark or have some other issues come up, but then again everything might be alright. I know it's a pain in the *** to replace the plugs but I would do it before hitting the bottle. Once you get a system down you can replace plugs pretty quick, pull the passanger side coil packs to make things easier and cut those big rods off the top of the bolts so they are easier to remove next time you need to do a plug change.
Also on the purge, I would reccomend one. It will hit harder and feel cleaner off the line. Without one you can get some surging or even a bog when you first hit it. You should be able to go with anyones kit as long as it's the same size as your main feed line. I would just shop around for a bargain purge kit, as long as the parts are half decent quality they all pretty much do the same thing.
Also on the purge, I would reccomend one. It will hit harder and feel cleaner off the line. Without one you can get some surging or even a bog when you first hit it. You should be able to go with anyones kit as long as it's the same size as your main feed line. I would just shop around for a bargain purge kit, as long as the parts are half decent quality they all pretty much do the same thing.
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Verdad Gallardo Well i am having kit installed at a friends in CT and he wanted to test it but running it once, and that would be with the stock plugs, so you are saying running just one 75 shot is taking a chance?
oh and thanks for the info on the purge.
oh and thanks for the info on the purge.
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my tests i don't spray any juice or fuel.
don't spray unless you get atleast the tr-55's tr-6's are recomended. stock plugs are platinum. not a good mix with n2o.
i test to make sure the noids open and close when they should.
a purge, like said above, clears out the line, gets the nitrious presurized right behind the noid. i like it because, you clean the line out. think of that on time where some how something got in the main line while you were getting your bottle filled. you spray, it jams up you n2o noid and it sticks open, probly not wide open but enough to do some damage you will be paying more for than the cost of a purge.
plus it looks cool at cruz nights just driveing round blowing puffs of white smoke.
spraying is dangerous, if done right, and with the propor saftey equipment. you reduce the risk of bad stuff happening.
don't spray unless you get atleast the tr-55's tr-6's are recomended. stock plugs are platinum. not a good mix with n2o.
i test to make sure the noids open and close when they should.
a purge, like said above, clears out the line, gets the nitrious presurized right behind the noid. i like it because, you clean the line out. think of that on time where some how something got in the main line while you were getting your bottle filled. you spray, it jams up you n2o noid and it sticks open, probly not wide open but enough to do some damage you will be paying more for than the cost of a purge.
plus it looks cool at cruz nights just driveing round blowing puffs of white smoke.
spraying is dangerous, if done right, and with the propor saftey equipment. you reduce the risk of bad stuff happening.