TNT vs. NX
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We currently have nitrous systems for every type of motorcycle engine there is. Single, two, three, and four cyclinders, we have a system for all of them. You can get them with various bottles as well, from as small as a 7oz. up to 2.5lb bottles. I was planning on running a single 2 or 2.5lb bottle suspended on the downtubes, polished of course. There is actually a pretty big market for the motorcycle kits.
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Originally Posted by NXJeremy
I would think that about the only way to get a true comparison between any systems would be to have a car on the dyno and test all the systems on the same car with the same conditions (ie: engine temp, ambient temp, pull process, etc.). Even then, the jetting would be off since everyone's jetting differs. Meaning that our 100hp jetting is different from other's 100hp jetting.
I guess it really just boils down to what each individual wants, so like Ed says, pick your poison.....and enjoy the hell out of it.
I guess it really just boils down to what each individual wants, so like Ed says, pick your poison.....and enjoy the hell out of it.
Actually thats not a bad idea there Jeremy.. In fact that sounds like a great idea.. How about setting up a publicized dyno challenge between NX and TNT?? Should we start discussing details??
David,I have a question for you.
So I guess yall would take comparable systems and do a challenge from the ease of install to performance.You would have to do it on the same exact car on the same exact day,at the same exact everything.You guys would also have to compare jetting to make sure they are the same.Im just wondering how that would work.
There will be alot of time involved.
Seems interesting but I know would be hard to do during the busy season.
Dave
So I guess yall would take comparable systems and do a challenge from the ease of install to performance.You would have to do it on the same exact car on the same exact day,at the same exact everything.You guys would also have to compare jetting to make sure they are the same.Im just wondering how that would work.
There will be alot of time involved.
Seems interesting but I know would be hard to do during the busy season.
Dave
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bla bla bla, this is old and proves nothing. Same jetting, I say its 100 and it makes 100, you say your jetting is 100 and makes the 100 or at least almost makes the 100 depending on the car proves nothing. This discussion is so old, and the customers are starting to suffer, buy the on going mine is better no mine is better. TO all the current and future nitrous users of the world, buy what you like, run what you brung,(hope you brung enough) have fun.
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
bla bla bla, this is old and proves nothing. Same jetting, I say its 100 and it makes 100, you say your jetting is 100 and makes the 100 or at least almost makes the 100 depending on the car proves nothing. This discussion is so old, and the customers are starting to suffer, buy the on going mine is better no mine is better. TO all the current and future nitrous users of the world, buy what you like, run what you brung,(hope you brung enough) have fun.
Ricky
Ricky
Are the customers not worth some real results Ricky??
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Originally Posted by NXJeremy
I would think that about the only way to get a true comparison between any systems would be to have a car on the dyno and test all the systems on the same car with the same conditions (ie: engine temp, ambient temp, pull process, etc.). Even then, the jetting would be off since everyone's jetting differs. Meaning that our 100hp jetting is different from other's 100hp jetting. I guess it really just boils down to what each individual wants, so like Ed says, pick your poison.....and enjoy the hell out of it.
BY WHAT YOU LIKE AND "PILL IT 'TILL YOU KILL IT"!!!
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David before I really repond to that comment how about you clairify your meaning for me. Are you
1. joking
2. having a little fun
3. trying to start something
4. being stupid
Just help me out here.
1. joking
2. having a little fun
3. trying to start something
4. being stupid
Just help me out here.
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I would like to see an NX solenoid and a TNT solenoid, side by side, both hooked up to progressive controllers, and pulsed continuously at the same rate untill one fails.
Jetting is jetting, bottle pressure is bottle pressure, given the same control items the results of a test would be what solenoid flows better and maybe efficiency of the nossle? But I bet those results would be minimal.
Take fueling out of the jetting equasion, run a dry kit, and realize that all nitrous kits are the same and you make as much hp as you spray. Quality of components is a bigger issue than the newbie issue of who's 100 shot kit makes more power. So do us a favor, beat on the solenoids a little, then come and tell us who's got the bigger pee-pee.
Jetting is jetting, bottle pressure is bottle pressure, given the same control items the results of a test would be what solenoid flows better and maybe efficiency of the nossle? But I bet those results would be minimal.
Take fueling out of the jetting equasion, run a dry kit, and realize that all nitrous kits are the same and you make as much hp as you spray. Quality of components is a bigger issue than the newbie issue of who's 100 shot kit makes more power. So do us a favor, beat on the solenoids a little, then come and tell us who's got the bigger pee-pee.
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Originally Posted by NXJeremy
In case someone missed the jist of what I was saying I will reiterate it. Every company has different jetting, therefore the horsepower numbers are not comparable. I have said this repeatedly. I would love to do a test between every company's systems, but the time involved to make the test viable would be crazy long and I don't know how busy other company's are but I have been very busy with tech and customer service.
BY WHAT YOU LIKE AND "PILL IT 'TILL YOU KILL IT"!!!
BY WHAT YOU LIKE AND "PILL IT 'TILL YOU KILL IT"!!!
Hince the reason why I agreed with Nitro Dave on the same car, same day, same jetting, and even the same soleniods..That leaves it up to the actual product design..
Do you not think that the time taken out of our busy busniess schedules is worth it to do a comparison for the customers Jeremy??..
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
David before I really repond to that comment how about you clairify your meaning for me. Are you
3. trying to start something
4. being stupid
Just help me out here.
3. trying to start something
4. being stupid
Just help me out here.
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Originally Posted by Y2K2LS1
I would like to see an NX solenoid and a TNT solenoid, side by side, both hooked up to progressive controllers, and pulsed continuously at the same rate untill one fails.
Jetting is jetting, bottle pressure is bottle pressure, given the same control items the results of a test would be what solenoid flows better and maybe efficiency of the nossle? But I bet those results would be minimal.
Take fueling out of the jetting equasion, run a dry kit, and realize that all nitrous kits are the same and you make as much hp as you spray. Quality of components is a bigger issue than the newbie issue of who's 100 shot kit makes more power. So do us a favor, beat on the solenoids a little, then come and tell us who's got the bigger pee-pee.
Jetting is jetting, bottle pressure is bottle pressure, given the same control items the results of a test would be what solenoid flows better and maybe efficiency of the nossle? But I bet those results would be minimal.
Take fueling out of the jetting equasion, run a dry kit, and realize that all nitrous kits are the same and you make as much hp as you spray. Quality of components is a bigger issue than the newbie issue of who's 100 shot kit makes more power. So do us a favor, beat on the solenoids a little, then come and tell us who's got the bigger pee-pee.
I think everyone has had a chance to get there .02c in here.
Of course each manufacturer thinks thier kits are top notch. both companies discussed here are very high quality for sure. The rest is up to the purchaser to figure out what they want, what they need, and what they feel is the best bargain. I dont think its possible to "win" the arguement and the facts have been presented. So I feel this is a good time to close this thread. If there are other facts or ideas the NX people or the TNT people would like to express further about thier products...please feel free to start another thread. If you feel this thread should not have been closed...feel free to PM me. Thanks guys
Of course each manufacturer thinks thier kits are top notch. both companies discussed here are very high quality for sure. The rest is up to the purchaser to figure out what they want, what they need, and what they feel is the best bargain. I dont think its possible to "win" the arguement and the facts have been presented. So I feel this is a good time to close this thread. If there are other facts or ideas the NX people or the TNT people would like to express further about thier products...please feel free to start another thread. If you feel this thread should not have been closed...feel free to PM me. Thanks guys