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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I have no presure switch on my bottle because of fitment issues, so I wired it on a switch and relay.
I was letting it heat up before a run and I let it get to 1250 psi on the gauge. It did'nt blow off and the car ran really strong down the track.

Were does it pop off at??
Is this bad. I don't want to see my quarter pannel blown off.lol.
It's a tnt bottle 10lbs.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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I think most companies aim to have them rupture at 2,200-2,500 psi. I really wouldn't be spraying over 1100psi though. It can take a toll on the solenoid and it'll lean you out.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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yep, there's a big difference in how it reacts at different pressures from my experience. but i think it's like what's been said, it's just the overall mixture being a bit "leaner". i made my nitrous passes at 850-900 and see alot of guys saying that's a good pressure, but i've also read people saying it should be up around 1050-1100? hopefully we get more people responding
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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We run it at 1050 with the nx pressure activated bottle warmer. I think 1200 is a bit excessive. With a big shot it is nice to have 1050 to start because it drops to like 900 by the end of the pass.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Yeah the pressure definately drops off if your using a big shot. I spray 150 shot wet, with 1100PSI pressure.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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I run 900psi and pill the fuel according.

This way I have no bottle pressure drop throughout the run. Most of the big bottle cars and bikes run them between 8-900psi.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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I ran it at 900 psi and the run did'nt go very well. It did'nt seem to hit as hard. The time was slower also.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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the higher the pressure usually means it'll hit a little harder...but you run the risk of freezing the solenoid or running too lean and hurting something. most companies suggest that their system is most effective at a set determined bottle pressure. TNT i beleive tests their kits at 950psi and state that thats where its best effective which is where i try and get my pressure to stay around when i hit.

goodluck.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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I run 1150psi, but am a dry hit and fuel ratio will stay the same whether it's 600psi or 1500psi, one of the many benifits of dry. Also, on a dry hit if you up the pressure, it's the same as jetting for a larger hp hit. On a wet kit whether it's a higher or lower press, from manufactures suggested psi, you'll be going lean or rich.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I have a tnt f1 so by upping the presure I'm leaning it out? That don't sound good. I don't want to fry my motor.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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My nx jet card was rated for fuel @ 50 psi and nitrous @ 1050. If you use a nitrous calculator you can figure out the fuel jetting. Usually tnt and nx over jet the fuel by 1-2 steps for safety reasons.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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NX's kits reccomend between 900-1050 psi.

That's why theyr second gen bottle warmer turns on under 900PSI and turns off at 1050PSI.

I know NX's blowdown tubes have a rupture disc which is supposed to pop at 3000 PSI. If Memory serves me correctly tanks are supposed to be capable of handling somewhere in the 5-6k PSI range, but I wouldn't test it.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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I ran it at 900 psi and the run did'nt go very well. It did'nt seem to hit as hard. The time was slower also.
Ofcoarse you can't run the bottle pressure at 900 when the system is rated for the fuel pills to be for a 1050psi nitrous pressure. You have to rejet the fuel also or it will feel like a turd. It is getting to much fuel.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ouija
NX's kits reccomend between 900-1050 psi.

That's why theyr second gen bottle warmer turns on under 900PSI and turns off at 1050PSI.

I know NX's blowdown tubes have a rupture disc which is supposed to pop at 3000 PSI. If Memory serves me correctly tanks are supposed to be capable of handling somewhere in the 5-6k PSI range, but I wouldn't test it.
I am using a NX heater (don't know what gen) and it does much less than a optimum job of keeping it in this range. Yea, it might come up to pressure if you have 45 minutes or more. When you are in staging lanes for hours this is less than ideal. I am looking at the NX Fire and Ice to cure this problem as it will keep it within 5psi of the set pressure.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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Ofcoarse you can't run the bottle pressure at 900 when the system is rated for the fuel pills to be for a 1050psi nitrous pressure. You have to rejet the fuel also or it will feel like a turd. It is getting to much fuel.
That would explain the bad run I had with a 900 psi bottle pressure. It fell on it's face on the low end, and then picked up on the higher rpm's.
The next run, I cranked up the pressure and the car felt very strong.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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I think most companies aim to have them rupture at 2,200-2,500 psi. I really wouldn't be spraying over 1100psi though. It can take a toll on the solenoid and it'll lean you out.
i thought it was 3000 psi... maybe i'm wrong.

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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So 1250 psi is not going to hurt the bottle??
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JRracing
So 1250 psi is not going to hurt the bottle??
Nope, a buddy ran a 11.48 on 1500psi bottle.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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I like using mine between 1050-1150, at 900 the hit seems weak with a 150shot but I will not run it over 1200, if its that high, I will purge it a little to lower the pressure some.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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NX recommends 1050 psi and their bottle heater transducer is calibrated accordingly.
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