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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Al, what exactly does having a longer valve benefit and what needs to be adjusted for them? I know ET Performace new heads have longer valves and I will be getting a set very soon. Another nice thing abut them is the 11* gives more clearance per same cam and pistons as stock style/or stock heads. Anyway, cool beans.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Man, some of you guys are putting down scary power.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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OK from what I have been reading everybodys "max cam" is different. What are some of the things we need to look for in picking a n2o cam? Say a 108 lsa or a 116 lsa and more duration on the intake or exhaust? I know when I do my engine it will be set up for alot of spray 2 or 3 kits ranging from 100hp to ? I remember reading whats needed for a n2o cam is not right for a blower and a turbo is also different. So what should we look for? Thanks.

383LQ4SS how would that cam be for limited street driving? less than 1k a year? I am not woried about mpg obviously but on the springs and everything thing else?

Oh ya one more thing how does CR play into picking the right cam?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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i'm really looking for things that nitrous likes. lots of LSA? low LSA? lots of standard duration split? a low duration split or even reverse split? how about lift?

those kinds of things. why does a good NASTY n/a cam suck as a nitrous cam?

i'm a total newb at this stuff. i want to know so i don't go setting up a cam and realizing its the wrong one for the job.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Look at the Comp Cams website: www.compcams.com

They have nitrous cams and you can check out the specs. They will make any cam you need ground for a very reasonable price. My custom solid roller was only $280 from them.

You can also call their tech line and they will take you through a bunch of questions and give you a couple recommended cams to consider. My advice is to be 100% honest with yourself and them about the intended use of your car. No need to put a crazy nitrous cam in there if you are only using nitrous 1% of the time, eh?

Jim
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Guys, go back up to Al (383LQ....) last post or two and read again. You wont find one of these cams off the shelf. For example, when I dedicated my plans on running nitrous, on my daily driver of course, I contacted EDC (Ed Curtis) and sent back n forth several emails. After weeks of thought, I went ahead and completed his cam request card and emailed it back to him. Two days later he said I got the grind for you, send payment here and I will cut the cam. Did I ask what the spec's are? Nope, because he knows so much more about what will work and what wont. Personally I'd like at cam cards now and not have a clue to what is really going on, so no need for worry. Is my cam big, not when compared to Al's, but for a stock ci many would think mine is huge. And most huge cams like this off the shelf are going to be shorter LSA or this or that. My cam was ground using the info on my combo, and wants, needs etc.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Al, what exactly does having a longer valve benefit and what needs to be adjusted for them? I know ET Performace new heads have longer valves and I will be getting a set very soon. Another nice thing abut them is the 11* gives more clearance per same cam and pistons as stock style/or stock heads. Anyway, cool beans.

Charlie
Longer valves just allows more space between the bottom of the spring pocket and the underside of the retainer. If yuo want more space you either have to machine the pockets deeper or get a longer valve. Well on an LS1 there isnt much room to machine pockets especially if you go to a 1.55+ OD spring pocket. The larger space just allows for a larger and taller spring. These bigger springs allow for increased range for available lift.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by n2ojunkie

383LQ4SS how would that cam be for limited street driving? less than 1k a year? I am not woried about mpg obviously but on the springs and everything thing else?
I have about 500 street miles on this cam. I dont think its bad at all. It idles at about 1100-1200 with some pretty good surging from time to time. Doesnt bother me, but I have a high threshold of tolerance. I dont mind driving on slicks and a full spool either.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Guys, go back up to Al (383LQ....) last post or two and read again. You wont find one of these cams off the shelf. For example, when I dedicated my plans on running nitrous, on my daily driver of course, I contacted EDC (Ed Curtis) and sent back n forth several emails. After weeks of thought, I went ahead and completed his cam request card and emailed it back to him. Two days later he said I got the grind for you, send payment here and I will cut the cam. Did I ask what the spec's are? Nope, because he knows so much more about what will work and what wont. Personally I'd like at cam cards now and not have a clue to what is really going on, so no need for worry. Is my cam big, not when compared to Al's, but for a stock ci many would think mine is huge. And most huge cams like this off the shelf are going to be shorter LSA or this or that. My cam was ground using the info on my combo, and wants, needs etc.

I agree. The question was for "Max Effort". That means the cam is specced to operate, and best control flow of gases via valve events when it is under a tremendous load and tremendous flows....much higher than what you would see NA. If you are really spraying alot(300-600)...and want a cam that is best designed to operate under this environment......this cam likely will be LESS than ideal for running NA. Its parameters are targeted to be efficient during this elevated state.

You will see most nitrous cams have alot of exhaust duration as compared to intake, they will also be a wider LSa like 114. All this has a tendancy to bleed off some pressure under NA conditions especially as you get up in duration like the 260s and 270s. I am no cam guru by any means. But thats how I see it.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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as far as shots, this motor prolly will not see over a 275 shot but is being setup for a 200-250 as ideal. its on a set of stage 2 heads from patriot so the heads aren't flowing TO well but being on a tight budget, thats all i could get as the motor money was all spent on the lower end. the car will be driven 350 miles to the school i'm at right now (diesel tech) but then will barely have any miles put on it. my tolerance is also extremely high. i was happy to drive on the stock tune 242/248 cam with a spool, slicks, and no heater this winter
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
How do you fit that in a Civic? Holy Shiat! j/k

So this is for what vehicle, the cobra?
Yes it's for the stang, it's got an ls1 in it. I'll be going solid roller over the winter with 1/2 studs and oring grooves. The other cam doesn't have huge lift it's only .673 but the duration is in the 26x/270's. I'll post pics later. Only reason for this is because my domes are huge I don't want to fly cut them much. I only have .080 now. If i got to a bigger valve I'll have much less. Right now it has a 2.02
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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268/276 .673/.673 110lsa is the next cam solid roller I'll be running. My heads will flow the best they possibly can for 98 perimiter bolts.
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