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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Anybody know what propane tank and regulator to use for converting a wet kit to use propane as the fuel.

Any information on jet sizes would be useful also.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Did I forget you before? I do have some info on setting this up.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Did I forget you before? I do have some info on setting this up.
Robert
Yes, you said you where busy and I pm'ed you a couple of times then gave up.(I know how it is to be busy I got married since the last time I pmed you)

I got a race coming up in about 4 weeks and would like to have an extra bullet in the gun.
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What advantages does having propane on the fuel side do?
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What advantages does having propane on the fuel side do?
No need for a fuel pump. The propane is about 105 oct. Propane does not puddle in your intake.
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No need for a fuel pump. The propane is about 105 oct. Propane does not puddle in your intake
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Yes, the best being the high octane, and a small container will last a really long time. No stand alone fuel system.

Some things to remember:
1. Use a nitrous noid, or a good fuel noid (NOS PowerShot=400psi).
2. Monitor a/f like you normally would (no formula to convert from gas (jets) to propane, yet, I'll figure that out later).
3. Propane needs to be heated to 140/160psi (can use bottle heater).
4. You can go propane/n2o, or a three way system propane/gas/n2o, 3-way makes more power.
5.Propane can be used on a wet or dry system (3-way).
6. Use a NOS bottle blanket with the 85* thermastats (will heat to 160psi).
7. Higher propane pressure equals richer mix.
8. You'll use about 1lb of propane for every 18lbs of nitrous.
9. As a gas it doesn't have the distribution problems of gasoline.
10. Octane of propane around 112/115. (the good stuff).
11. No propane reg needed.

Let me know what size shot and I'll give you the jet sizes (try to find that info).
Robert

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Yes, the best being the high octane, and a small container will last a really long time. No stand alone fuel system.

Some things to remember:
1. Use a nitrous noid, or a good fuel noid (NOS PowerShot=400psi).
2. Monitor a/f like you normally would (no formula to convert from gas (jets) to propane, yet, I'll figure that out later).
3. Propane needs to be heated to 140/160psi (can use bottle heater).
4. You can go propane/n2o, or a three way system propane/gas/n2o, 3-way makes more power.
5.Propane can be used on a wet or dry system (3-way).
6. Use a NOS bottle blanket with the 85* thermastats (will heat to 160*).
7. Higher propane pressure equals richer mix.
8. You'll use about 1lb of propane for every 18lbs of nitrous.
9. As a gas it doesn't have the distribution problems of gasoline.
10. Octane of propane around 112/115. (the good stuff).
11. No propane reg needed.

Let me know what size shot and I'll give you the jet sizes (try to find that info).
Robert
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TTT again
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wow thanks for the info robert56.....everyone is tight lipped about this propane stuff
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Your welcome, and I also have all the tried and true propane/nitrous jet sizes. I may get in trouble posting them as they are proprieatary info. We'll see, I think a bit on it.
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Your welcome, and I also have all the tried and true propane/nitrous jet sizes. I may get in trouble posting them as they are proprieatary info. We'll see, I think a bit on it.
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I've been looking into this too and my only hang up has been that I don't feel like putting another large bottle in the back of my car. I wish they made a 2 lb propane bottle. The smallest tank I found is a 5 pounder, other than the small 1 lb bottles used for cooking stoves. I was thinking about using the 1 lb bottles but they aren't refillable.

I've been told that propane will also have an additional cooling effect when sprayed. Also, propane will atomize with the nitrous better than gasoline.

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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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So that's the only real benefit, + octane?? I am very interested! Just cant get much Info!
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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So... anyone wanna put together a kit and start selling it so I don't have to source my own stuff? lol
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Stroke Racer
So that's the only real benefit, + octane?? I am very interested! Just cant get much Info!
Many more benifits, reread prior posts.
Robert

So... anyone wanna put together a kit and start selling it so I don't have to source my own stuff? lol
That's one of the reasons I am trying to decide if I want to give up the jet sizes, as you can search the net and I doubt you'll find this info? Just need someone with a bankroll.
Robert
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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This definately sounds interesting. no race gas always sounds good to me!
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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dam robert i never knew you actually went into this further. thats awsome what kind of gains did you get from this? i was thorwing the idea of doing my direct port propane or alky setup but i just never got that far into the project
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Originally Posted by PAGregSS
I've been looking into this too and my only hang up has been that I don't feel like putting another large bottle in the back of my car. I wish they made a 2 lb propane bottle. The smallest tank I found is a 5 pounder, other than the small 1 lb bottles used for cooking stoves. I was thinking about using the 1 lb bottles but they aren't refillable.

I've been told that propane will also have an additional cooling effect when sprayed. Also, propane will atomize with the nitrous better than gasoline.

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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Yep, then you can put the bottle in the little compartments in back. It'll last quite a long time between refills.
Robert
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this is very interesting. the technology is advancing and changing so fast its amazing me
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