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Old 10-19-2005, 02:46 AM
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hope it's something simple. I hate hearing things like this makes me kinda scared. I'm bout to start to motor for the first time hear in a couple of weeks hopefully nothing goes wrong
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Originally Posted by pewter 01 SS
I Have A 408ci Build For N2o.. Car Teh Car Feels Good In High Rpm Mainly After 4k But Not As Powerfull In Low Rpm.. My Question Is Do You Guys Think This Cam Is Going To Pull Good When The N2o Goes On?? Or Should I Change The Cam..
You cam isn't that big. I have a 408 also and a much bigger cam 265-275. I stall under 4000 and still cut 1.44 60' on motor. 3360lbs. Get it tuned and make sure your valve train is up to par! Andy.
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Originally Posted by pewter 01 SS
well i didnt drive the car much with the pulley like that.. i fixed it right away.. i remember putting the o-ring in correctly but who knows.. the only thing i can do is buy the new oil pump and hope from the best.. which pump do you think is good for the motor..
Any pump will work. We keep the melings in stock. Just because its a big cube motor, does not mean you need a big pump.

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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
You cam isn't that big. I have a 408 also and a much bigger cam 265-275. I stall under 4000 and still cut 1.44 60' on motor. 3360lbs. Get it tuned and make sure your valve train is up to par! Andy.

the valvetrain is ok i have the jessel rockers with double springs.. what 1/4 mile times have you gotten??
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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
Any pump will work. We keep the melings in stock. Just because its a big cube motor, does not mean you need a big pump.

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thanks for the info rick.. is speed density possible with a cam like this??
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Originally Posted by pewter 01 SS
thanks for the info rick.. is speed density possible with a cam like this??

Speed density is really the only way to go with a cam that size. Its not even worth running around with a MAF.

One thing I would do is run stock rockers. Aftermarket rockers are going to be heavy on the valve train and you will wind up lossing power on the top as well. Found this out with the rockers we have on our 429. It makes good torque, but the power falls off before we can get up to the top. So now we are putting the stock rockers back on and lowering the lift some.

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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
Speed density is really the only way to go with a cam that size. Its not even worth running around with a MAF.

One thing I would do is run stock rockers. Aftermarket rockers are going to be heavy on the valve train and you will wind up lossing power on the top as well. Found this out with the rockers we have on our 429. It makes good torque, but the power falls off before we can get up to the top. So now we are putting the stock rockers back on and lowering the lift some.

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I run a maf and jesel shaft mount rockers?
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That cam isn't that big. I have a 246 248 .615 114 in my 382 and it starts making power at 3000rpm
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
I run a maf and jesel shaft mount rockers?

I only say this because some engines have a problem with heavy valve train and thats why power falls off. If yours makes power, then more power to you and you are doing great. As for MAF or no MAF, you may think its nice now, but try it no MAF.

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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
I only say this because some engines have a problem with heavy valve train and thats why power falls off. If yours makes power, then more power to you and you are doing great. As for MAF or no MAF, you may think its nice now, but try it no MAF.

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i thought you had told me that with a cam this big you cand do it without maf?? thats the only reason i didnt do the tune.. originally i wanted a tune without the maf because i had seen what you did with other guys cars..
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Originally Posted by pewter 01 SS
i thought you had told me that with a cam this big you cand do it without maf?? thats the only reason i didnt do the tune.. originally i wanted a tune without the maf because i had seen what you did with other guys cars..
No, I told you I would not tune this car with the MAF on it. Its not worth it. I was telling you the best way to tune the car would be to take the MAF off.

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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
No, I told you I would not tune this car with the MAF on it. Its not worth it. I was telling you the best way to tune the car would be to take the MAF off.

Rick

i guess i didnt hear you correctly.. should of gotten it tuned right and close the first time.. oh well learn form the mistakes i guess.. thnx for all the info
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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
I only say this because some engines have a problem with heavy valve train and thats why power falls off. If yours makes power, then more power to you and you are doing great. As for MAF or no MAF, you may think its nice now, but try it no MAF.

Rick
Nobody around here tunes in speed density. I'm going to buy BS3 and tune it that way. I think it will be easier!
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if you wanna change your cam i have a smaller one for sale its a 224 227 at 114



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