Bandit FINALLY Dynos NX Dual Nozzle Wet Kit (Dyno sheet Attached)
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with the combo you are running a very rich tune up to say the least. 4.2 Nitrous to fuel ratio.. The combo for 100 should be 35/20. Like I said earlier if you are happy let it ride...
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If your comfortable and happy with it then just let it ride, even if it is a little too rich for most people. And Robert, he's got the 100hp jets in it instead of the 150hp. So he's making 89 more hp with it running way rich and with timing unecessarily pulled out of it. With the 35/20 jets in it and the timing put back in, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the hp jump up to over 100hp gained.
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Ricky suggested using The #35 N20 (which I am already) and the #20 Fuel Jet to get to the best A/F. I am LOOKING at the Jet Pack that came with the dual nozzle Kit. There is no #20 Fuel Jet.
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
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Gary, yea you have that mondo converter, that does explain some. also, like you said upping your bottle press will lean it out a tad. Imo, going with the 20 jets even without the dyno would be rec, a good comprimise for now. you going to be able to get to the strip again this year? Good luck on the 10's, they are at hand.
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Thanks Robert. I will have to see about getting some 20# Jets. I don't have that came with my kit as I said above.
My buddy suggested maybe upping one of my NX Nitrous Jets in JUST ONE SIDE of my Dual Nozzle Kit???
So Putting a 150 shot NX Jet in there, which in my case is a #41 to replace the #35 N2O jet that is in there now.
Or my thought was the same as above, but doing it to the FUEL JET on One side of my Dual nozzle, replace the Fuel Jets from my current #22 Fuel Jet and change it to the lower #18 100 shot, (again just on one side).
What do ya think?
My buddy suggested maybe upping one of my NX Nitrous Jets in JUST ONE SIDE of my Dual Nozzle Kit???
So Putting a 150 shot NX Jet in there, which in my case is a #41 to replace the #35 N2O jet that is in there now.
Or my thought was the same as above, but doing it to the FUEL JET on One side of my Dual nozzle, replace the Fuel Jets from my current #22 Fuel Jet and change it to the lower #18 100 shot, (again just on one side).
What do ya think?
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Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
Ricky suggested using The #35 N20 (which I am already) and the #20 Fuel Jet to get to the best A/F. I am LOOKING at the Jet Pack that came with the dual nozzle Kit. There is no #20 Fuel Jet.
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
And there is NO perfect air fuel for every car jsut your car and your comfort level.. 11.9 should have nothing to do with the old engine going by by, unless you lugged it, and go into some detenation. 150 shot or even 200 are done on bone stock cars all day, with no problems... Again back to the comfort level, so start small take baby steps and your end results, will be lots of power, lots of fun, and peices of mind...
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Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
Thanks Robert. I will have to see about getting some 20# Jets. I don't have that came with my kit as I said above.
My buddy suggested maybe upping one of my NX Nitrous Jets in JUST ONE SIDE of my Dual Nozzle Kit???
So Putting a 150 shot NX Jet in there, which in my case is a #41 to replace the #35 N2O jet that is in there now.
Or my thought was the same as above, but doing it to the FUEL JET on One side of my Dual nozzle, replace the Fuel Jets from my current #22 Fuel Jet and change it to the lower #18 100 shot, (again just on one side).
What do ya think?
My buddy suggested maybe upping one of my NX Nitrous Jets in JUST ONE SIDE of my Dual Nozzle Kit???
So Putting a 150 shot NX Jet in there, which in my case is a #41 to replace the #35 N2O jet that is in there now.
Or my thought was the same as above, but doing it to the FUEL JET on One side of my Dual nozzle, replace the Fuel Jets from my current #22 Fuel Jet and change it to the lower #18 100 shot, (again just on one side).
What do ya think?
Ricky
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Originally Posted by XTrooper
Outstanding numbers, amigo! Congratulations!
Your A/F ratio is too fat. Aim for 12.0 (+/- 1).
Your timing is fine. As you said, if you lost only ~4 hp, why worry about it.
Your A/F ratio is too fat. Aim for 12.0 (+/- 1).
Your timing is fine. As you said, if you lost only ~4 hp, why worry about it.
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Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
Ricky suggested using The #35 N20 (which I am already) and the #20 Fuel Jet to get to the best A/F. I am LOOKING at the Jet Pack that came with the dual nozzle Kit. There is no #20 Fuel Jet.
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
I am looking at the white sticker that is on the pack of Jets that came with my Kit and on that sticker it says:
"20215 G.T. DUAL NOZZLE 100-300"
HP N20 FUEL
100 35 18
150 41 22
200 52 33
Should I get a few #20 Jets for each side of the Fuel, to replace the #22 jets have in there now?
Or should I throw in the #18 Jets in there. I guess if I had #20 jets that would be a middle ground on the fuel inbetween the 18 and 22 that came with my system.
Also, I read Robert's reply. I am shooting for 100 shot, not 150. I was just using the next larger size fuel jet whcih happens to be the 150HP Fuel Jet.
I originally did this because using the same combo I have in there now I ran 11.9, but them I blew my motor shortly after, so maybe that had a wierd affect on the 11.9 A/F I was getting with this combo of jets.
Thanks to all who have helped me on my nitrous quest. I know I am a Pain in The ***!
What exactly failed on the motor? Im going to say you broke a ringland which is pretty common with stock rings on the pistons. 11.9 isnt unsafe on the nitrous but a car will make more torque with a fatter A/F
My dry kit runs 10.5:1 A/F ratio. With 175 pills in it (i have a converter Mustang kit on my car that uses my aeromotive regualtor to spike the fuel pressure for my setup on my LS1) my car made 396rhwp on motor with 386 on torque with my nitrous converter. On the Dope it made 630+ rwhp and 890rwtq at these a/f ratios. All on a stock longblock with low tension rings, ARP head studs, and ARP rod bolts. I dont run Tr6 plugs either.
A Nitrous tuneup consists, of timing control, cold copper plugs, and precise A/F metering.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
What exactly failed on the motor? Im going to say you broke a ringland which is pretty common with stock rings on the pistons. 11.9 isnt unsafe on the nitrous but a car will make more torque with a fatter A/F
My dry kit runs 10.5:1 A/F ratio. With 175 pills in it (i have a converter Mustang kit on my car that uses my aeromotive regualtor to spike the fuel pressure for my setup on my LS1) my car made 396rhwp on motor with 386 on torque with my nitrous converter. On the Dope it made 630+ rwhp and 890rwtq at these a/f ratios. All on a stock longblock with low tension rings, ARP head studs, and ARP rod bolts. I dont run Tr6 plugs either.
A Nitrous tuneup consists, of timing control, cold copper plugs, and precise A/F metering.
My dry kit runs 10.5:1 A/F ratio. With 175 pills in it (i have a converter Mustang kit on my car that uses my aeromotive regualtor to spike the fuel pressure for my setup on my LS1) my car made 396rhwp on motor with 386 on torque with my nitrous converter. On the Dope it made 630+ rwhp and 890rwtq at these a/f ratios. All on a stock longblock with low tension rings, ARP head studs, and ARP rod bolts. I dont run Tr6 plugs either.
A Nitrous tuneup consists, of timing control, cold copper plugs, and precise A/F metering.
By the way V6 Bird, that's one hella set-up ya got their, and I may be talking to ya about your fuel system set-up, however, I have something planned to try first.
Robert
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Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
Ok enough already about the V-6 Birds, lets get back to talking about ME.
Robert