Spraying off the line A4
the phrase 'out of the hole' means many things to different people. to me, i sit at idle. floor it, then turn the system on at 2000 rpms (now 2500 due to converter) in first gear. that is my definition of 'out of the hole'. what's yours? just asking this to get on the same page of thinking.
Maybe somebody needs to think how stall convertors work? The principal behind them is Torque based, not RPM. So if you spray over a stall it will flash 300-500 over rating.
minimum.( DISCLAIMER***** depending on shot size)
minimum.( DISCLAIMER***** depending on shot size)
Originally Posted by 227Hawk
Not sure of this? A 2500 stall on spray will race to what RPM ,without ballon plates? I like to travel to the track and back. Don't want to clutter the board
but are you sure of this?
Hawk
but are you sure of this?
Hawk
BTW -I agree if you do spray from home use a Dry kit(IMO)
Last edited by NOSJNKY; Nov 30, 2005 at 06:37 AM.
Originally Posted by 227Hawk
My suggestion friends/shopping cart!!!!!.If you spray that low of RPM,
you're toast. And i suggest a 'Dry' set up i'm just guessing you're new to
spray.
Hawk
you're toast. And i suggest a 'Dry' set up i'm just guessing you're new to
spray.
Hawk
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I have a 4,000 stall and Yank SS4000 with a 2.60 STR.
I bet that turns into a Yank 4,500 if I spray out of the hole?? i will have to check when I try it one day, still haven't sprayed at the track yet.
I bet that turns into a Yank 4,500 if I spray out of the hole?? i will have to check when I try it one day, still haven't sprayed at the track yet.
STYank 4000. The car has stock exhaust and stock suspension. SI with just a lid. Spraying a 100 shot wet "outta the hole". I stall up to about 3000-3300. Not really sure what I flash to on the spray b/c I'm usually looking at the track. This is also on a set of MT ET Streets. I pull consistent 1.58-1.59, 60' times. But have hit 1.496 and lifted the stock front tire off the ground. Would definitely recommend a set of sticky's. Also, a converter will do wonders. 13.5s stock, dropped to 12.5s with just addition of converter and ET Streets, then dropped to 11.5s with a 100 shot. As mentioned before, get a window switch and don't worry about the rpms, just floor her. Would also recommend a Fuel Pressure Safety Switch. Oh, another advocate of not spraying under 3000 rpms.
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Originally Posted by PHTCBRA
There's no real reason you can. Granted, if you puddle, or stall, then it can back fire.. But I NEVER had any problem spraying off the line, and this was wit a 150 shot..
Granted, it took my rear end out.. Well, not really. It just whined like a mofuka.
I say jet correctly, and then go for it. If it does backfire, hell, a new intake manafold might be in order.
^ the above post is my opinion only. These opinions are not to be taken to the grave. Do what you want to do, i did.
By spraying out of the hole, i acheived a 1.7 60 ft, on Nitto DDR's on a subframe connected Dragshock stock convertor car. HTH
Granted, it took my rear end out.. Well, not really. It just whined like a mofuka.
I say jet correctly, and then go for it. If it does backfire, hell, a new intake manafold might be in order.
^ the above post is my opinion only. These opinions are not to be taken to the grave. Do what you want to do, i did.
By spraying out of the hole, i acheived a 1.7 60 ft, on Nitto DDR's on a subframe connected Dragshock stock convertor car. HTH
Originally Posted by NOSJNKY
The 4l60e converters that use are custom built locally(Torque converter services of Columbia) using the stock shell and are normally good for 2200-2400 flash stall speed.The power level I'm speaking of (less than 500rwhp) doesnt require anti ballooning plates. I drive my cars to the track And back, never had an issue, but thats just me. Never had an issue with the stock converter either.We currently have one in an LS1 Camaro running low tens(HCI, LSI with two systems and slicks) for over a year with no issues(been through two trannys though!)
BTW -I agree if you do spray from home use a Dry kit(IMO)
BTW -I agree if you do spray from home use a Dry kit(IMO)
thing is, a nitrous stall isnt that much more than a non balloon plate stall, so why even chance it. they make them for a reason, follow the pro's!!!!!!
Originally Posted by bshonda
your only point i would disagree with is the statement that you dont need anti ballonning plates on a stall that your spraying and that the stock verter will last any time. my understanding of the techs that tore down my tranny, after it **** on itself, said that the material in the pan was verter based and not clutch based and that is what took out my clutches, pump, band, and all the other crap. the stator in the stock verter will not hold under the NOS, that is just my humble opinion and the techs that studied my verter and tranny!!!!
thing is, a nitrous stall isnt that much more than a non balloon plate stall, so why even chance it. they make them for a reason, follow the pro's!!!!!!
thing is, a nitrous stall isnt that much more than a non balloon plate stall, so why even chance it. they make them for a reason, follow the pro's!!!!!!
But for peace of mind your right, just be safe. Later
