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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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What are you guys with fly-by-wire throttle bodies using for a WOT switch to spray?
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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i think they are using a tps switch since there is no actual cable to move the butterfly.
the only way i can see a wot switch working is if they mount it in the cabin.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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I have mine on the accelarator pedal.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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If youre using a TPS why would you need a WOT anyway? Just curious.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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I don't have a tps just the wot.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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I would use a TPS switch or one of our window switches with teh TPS built in.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TchargedLS1TA
What are you guys with fly-by-wire throttle bodies using for a WOT switch to spray?
You should use a tps sencing switch. This unit will tell the nitrous system when your BUTTERFLY is wide open. YOu should never install a mechincal switch under the pedal, the computer controlls the Throttle blade not your foot pedal..
YOu can slam the pedal down faster than the computer may allow you to have full throttle and you could start spraying before your butterfly is wide open. just my .02

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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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I have a different opinion, and I base this on the fact that the vette guys have been using the wot sw under the pedal since '97, without issue. The tps if it's in your ws is fine, but to buy one outright instead of a couple dollar micro sw, well it's your money. Here's how the y-bods are doing it, then the GTO guys. Save your money.

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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I have a different opinion, and I base this on the fact that the vette guys have been using the wot sw under the pedal since '97, without issue. The tps if it's in your ws is fine, but to buy one outright instead of a couple dollar micro sw, well it's your money. Here's how the y-bods are doing it, then the GTO guys. Save your money.

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Correct its your money pay me now or pay the engine shop later. The fact is that just becuase it can be done does not mean it should be. The throttle blade does not move as fast as the pedal can, the computer controls that blade. Heck you own a vette, you Show off the vette, "I am vette owner here me roar", and then to cheap out with some half *** way of doing something is just a slap in the face of the Vette and Vette owners around the world. hmmm just like buying a vette and sticking these fake *** decals on it to make it look like bullet holes in the material..
the fact remains putting that switch in that location is ALMOST as bad as holding a push botton in your hand.
Goes back to the saying right tool for the job.
To each his own, his own is his.

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Correct,
In the past I have used the micro switch under the peddle. However this was on older cars. I would not do it on the newer model applications.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
Correct its your money pay me now or pay the engine shop later. The fact is that just becuase it can be done does not mean it should be. The throttle blade does not move as fast as the pedal can, the computer controls that blade. Heck you own a vette, you Show off the vette, "I am vette owner here me roar", and then to cheap out with some half *** way of doing something is just a slap in the face of the Vette and Vette owners around the world. hmmm just like buying a vette and sticking these fake *** decals on it to make it look like bullet holes in the material..
the fact remains putting that switch in that location is ALMOST as bad as holding a push botton in your hand.
Goes back to the saying right tool for the job.
To each his own, his own is his.

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Nonsense, pay me know or later, what kind of scare tactic is this. So your saying that all of NX's kit include a TPS now. It would seem this way if what you say above was in fact a truth or reality. I hear of a lot of problems with the tps getting it set-up, and no such problems running a wot sw.
Maybe my opinion would change if I was making $$ promoting the TPS. But honestly feel it's a waste of money. The reason I own a vette is because I can discern between what's needed and what works, compared to over priced unnessasary parts. These are my opinions, based on experiance and common sense, disagreeing is fine and welcomed as usuall.
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Nonsense, pay me know or later, what kind of scare tactic is this. So your saying that all of NX's kit include a TPS now. It would seem this way if what you say above was in fact a truth or reality. I hear of a lot of problems with the tps getting it set-up, and no such problems running a wot sw.
Maybe my opinion would change if I was making $$ promoting the TPS. But honestly feel it's a waste of money. The reason I own a vette is because I can discern between what's needed and what works, compared to over priced unnessasary parts. These are my opinions, based on experiance and common sense, disagreeing is fine and welcomed as usuall.
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You bought a vette and are complaining about over priced parts. And yes parts that I build for the vette like the one piece maf come with a tps, just like the 05-06 mustangs plate comes with a tps. Now I am sorry the company you represent does not have one, to offer to your customer and they're offered some half assed part to make it work, thats your hang up not mine.
So what problems with the tps, you turn a screw or now push a button big deal the fact is it is the right part for the job. I understand you do some work on Vics boat. I have a feeling you do not use the el cheapo tools to work on that do you.. Buy the way what brand of tools do you buy? This will tell the hole story.

O and buy the way its not scare tactics, it is the truch, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
You bought a vette and are complaining about over priced parts. And yes parts that I build for the vette like the one piece maf come with a tps, just like the 05-06 mustangs plate comes with a tps. Now I am sorry the company you represent does not have one, to offer to your customer and they're offered some half assed part to make it work, thats your hang up not mine.
So what problems with the tps, you turn a screw or now push a button big deal the fact is it is the right part for the job. I understand you do some work on Vics boat. I have a feeling you do not use the el cheapo tools to work on that do you.. Buy the way what brand of tools do you buy? This will tell the hole story.

O and buy the way its not scare tactics, it is the truch, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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Some half azzed part, the same one/type you were selling to vette guys before the advant of the maf kit. What about all your nozzle kits that go to the vettes, GTOs and the like, it must be fine to use a micro sw then. That's fine if you feel the need to have one, I have no problem with that. However, I do have a problem with the known "Vette Tax", with most thinking since you have a vette I can up the price.

Do a little work on Vic's boat, try head mechanic, a 3-year project. I use Craftsman tools by choice, not Snap On like you may think. Here is another area of if it costs more, then it must be better. Not true imo. Vic, however has all Snap On tools, and both camps believe it's sacrilege to use China junk.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Some half azzed part, the same one/type you were selling to vette guys before the advant of the maf kit. What about all your nozzle kits that go to the vettes, GTOs and the like, it must be fine to use a micro sw then. That's fine if you feel the need to have one, I have no problem with that. However, I do have a problem with the known "Vette Tax", with most thinking since you have a vette I can up the price.

Do a little work on Vic's boat, try head mechanic, a 3-year project. I use Craftsman tools by choice, not Snap On like you may think. Here is another area of if it costs more, then it must be better. Not true imo. Vic, however has all Snap On tools, and both camps believe it's sacrilege to use China junk.
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The other systems you are talking about are not specificly set up to work on the vette or GTO. With that said, you are talking about a vette tax, they corvette maf is cheaper than the F-body unit yea I see a Vette Credit on that one . So I do not see a vette tax there. I would NEVER EVER EVER take you or think you would be the type of person to buy Snap On tools. For crying out loud, you would not send a few bucks on the vette for the right part, likely hood of spending thousands of dollars more on tools nope would not see you doing that one.
Craftsman's are good nothing wrong with them, but that china could do the same job and cost you a hole lot less.
Now I am not knocking your 3 year project or your job title or what you do for Vic. Good for you, curious as you work for Vic why you never stepped up to work with his nitrous company. I see a conspiracy going on.
Robert you have your way of doing stuff, and I have mine. Lets agress to deagree on this one and move. or I am right your wrong which ever you prefer.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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I agree to disagree. You know why I chose to go Craftsman tools, and I originaly started with a Snap On credit line about 35 years ago, (still have the credit book). In Tech College at the age of 18, I could not afford to buy Snap On tools like some of the guys that were being supported by their folks. Soon, I came to realize that Craftsman was just as good as Snap On, imo. I now have two complete sets, one at work and one at home. As for the China thing, your right, they do have comparable to Craftsman regular tools, but like Vic, I buy only American if I can. Craftsman does now have their full polished Pro tools, just like Snap On. Some of the Detroit Diesel guys complain about breaking their Snap on ratchets all the time, then they wait upto 3-months for a rebuild kit, this won't happen with craftsman, the wait part.
The vette tax is everywhere in the aftermarket. Very well known problem. Also, I have never heard of a wot micro sw causing any type of $1000's worth of damage.

Why I don't deal Vic's kits, very interesting that you should ask, stay tuned.
Robert
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