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Old 04-28-2006, 08:43 PM
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This has been a good thread so far Black Nice Car Nice setup I know you what your talkin about I appreciate your Honesty. I have found somebodies car that I like their setup its Sleeperstyle. I like what hes done with what he's got. I have the same exact car down to the paintjob except in stock form. I like what most everybody has said so far keep the info coming its very helpful to me and I'm sure alot of others.
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I first sprayed 150 for quite a long time and then moved up to a 175 that saw a LOT of track time. This was on a stock bottom end with ported heads, 244/248 .598 cam and more bolt ons than I can name. I've got a drawer stuffed full of 9 second passes from that setup. There are no secrets with what it took to do that and I'll share any details folks want.
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Originally Posted by next
I first sprayed 150 for quite a long time and then moved up to a 175 that saw a LOT of track time. This was on a stock bottom end with ported heads, 244/248 .598 cam and more bolt ons than I can name. I've got a drawer stuffed full of 9 second passes from that setup. There are no secrets with what it took to do that and I'll share any details folks want.

OK, spill the beans
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Very good post! Really awesome reading. I'm getting ready to finish up my wet nitrous install today. I have 224/224 .581/.581 110 cam, stage 2.5 5.3 heads, LS6 intake, BBK T.B., L.T. headers, Racetronix fuel pump, and a Rock on Transmission. I was going to jet for 150 shot, now you guys got me thinking is this too big for my stock bottom end?
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Originally Posted by Drew778
OK, spill the beans
Here's the setup when I ran my best ET with the stock bottom end. Car went a best of 9.78 on a 175 shot and 9.87 on a 150 shot.

Raceweight 3220
Ported stock heads, 2.02/1.57 valves
LS6 intake
Ported stock TB
JetHot 1 3/4 headers, Dynomax bullets
TR6 plugs
Comp XE 244/248, .598
NX single nozzle kit (175 shot)
9" rear, full spool, 4.30 gear
Powerglide
Coan 8" converter 4800 stall
QA1 shocks (front R's)
Spohn TA, Wolfe anti roll bar, BMR panhard and LCAs
Dyno (150 shot) 508rwhp

The car started out with the baseline setup going 11's (even pulled the 11.000). Then with some adjustments after making pass after pass after pass it continued to improve. The adjustments included about 5 converter revisions between two different brands. After getting it down to 10.40 I made a final converter change, had Madman tune the suspension and then dropped from 1.5 to 1.3 short times and consitent 9 second passes. This process probably went on for at least a year or more of dialing in the setup and trying to get the right gearing, converter and suspension tune. Track time and minor adjustments make all the difference in the world.
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I am running the 5177 dry kit with a .057 & .038 jets on a stock LS1 with a tune and TR6s. So how much am I actually spraying with these jets?

I don't spray the car every day maybe one bottle every two months or so.
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Originally Posted by nitenshinarmor
Very good post! Really awesome reading. I'm getting ready to finish up my wet nitrous install today. I have 224/224 .581/.581 110 cam, stage 2.5 5.3 heads, LS6 intake, BBK T.B., L.T. headers, Racetronix fuel pump, and a Rock on Transmission. I was going to jet for 150 shot, now you guys got me thinking is this too big for my stock bottom end?
I would also have to agree that this is a good read.

I also have a similar cam, 228/228 .571/.571 112 lobe sep, with milled and p&p heads and bigger valves (10.8:1 SCR), LS6 intake, ported oil pump, LT's, Intake, etc. I'm currently making about 425rwhp on motor.

I was also planning on going with a 150hp wet shot (LS1/LS6 plate system), but I was also dead set on going with all the safety stuff. FPSS, window switch, WOT switch, and upgrading to a racetronix fuel pump!

like nitenshinarmor, I too am getting worried about this setup and wonder if this will work, or what I should do????
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Originally Posted by oange ss
a stock LS1 will easily handle a 150 shot, but a highly modified one wont, that TNT 150 shot is right at 175 horses at the crank and a stock block/rotating assy will only handle so much power, reguardless of detonation or air/fuel ratio
What do you base this on? You should now see by the responses that you have a lot folks questioning what their plans. You may want to back up what you're saying or let folks know that it is purely speculation on your part.
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Originally Posted by next
What do you base this on? You should now see by the responses that you have a lot folks questioning what their plans. You may want to back up what you're saying or let folks know that it is purely speculation on your part.
THANK YOU...

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Originally Posted by Drew778
Dude, I can't tune for ****, plus I don't know WTF I'm doing or talking about and still hit 10's

You better get on it BTW nice MPH
10 bolt and 6 speed..

daily driver will be delivered in a few weeks then i tear this ****** down for her new tranny rear redo the cage and some more supension stuffs..

Mike
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Originally Posted by nitenshinarmor
Very good post! Really awesome reading. I'm getting ready to finish up my wet nitrous install today. I have 224/224 .581/.581 110 cam, stage 2.5 5.3 heads, LS6 intake, BBK T.B., L.T. headers, Racetronix fuel pump, and a Rock on Transmission. I was going to jet for 150 shot, now you guys got me thinking is this too big for my stock bottom end?

start at 150.. get your tune right.. then work your way up.. but thats just me

Mike
and yes i just posted 3 times in a row..LOL
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Originally Posted by blacktransam
start at 150.. get your tune right.. then work your way up.. but thats just me

Mike
and yes i just posted 3 times in a row..LOL
That's exactly what I am going to do. After reading many posts, those who blew something up was usually from something wrong with the installation. And this is with similiar set ups like I have. I believe nitrous is completely safe if it is done right and do you homework! Don't take someone's word for it, RESEARCH it! I have way too much hard work and money tied up in my car to just believe everyone's statements. Statements should always be backed up with FACTS or it becomes shear SPECULATION. i will be able to post in a couple of weeks when my tune is complete both n/a and on the juice.
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so at what point do the stock rails, lines and injectors become the problem?
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i'm at the limit of my rails about now at a little ober 600
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Originally Posted by Steve Gunn
so at what point do the stock rails, lines and injectors become the problem?
The stock rails and lines will support a LOT of power. The injectors are another story though.
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Ladies and Germs, the stock block and crank will take an azzload of power. The weak link is in the rods and pistons. I just saw a twin turbo STOCK BLOCK AND CRANK camaro run 5.50's in the 1/8th roughly 6 weeks ago. There are also several folks on here using the stock block and crank and running in the 8 second zone. In regards to what a stock bottom end will take I would venture to guess that it is going to be a mixture of several things, one being the tuning (No pre or post detonation, any amount at high levels and you will most likely be making a pretty fireworks show. ) the fuel supply, and making sure your N2O system is in top notch working condition. There are always those that say it can't be done until someone does it. Then again there are those that still believe the world is flat. I wish it were so they would fall off it.

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Big Geek you are correct in your guessing for the most part. There a little things you can do to help as well, other than PCM Tuning, like take your highest flowing injector and put in #7 hole is a good start. Learning to read the signs of danger, like reading spark plugs is another one.

"How much can my stock block handle" is like asking "how much did that (insert some outrageous piece of work, like one of Dave's Beautfiul DP with custom everything, here) cost?" If you have to ask, you havent learned yet.




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