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Old May 12, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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What fuel mix are you guys running in the main tank and the standalone fuel system. I am debating if I should run:

Option 1:
93 main and straight 110 or 116 in nitrous fuel cell

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93/110 mix in both tanks

Option 3:
110 or 116 in both tanks
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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what compression ratio?

How much HP on motor

What size shot?

Staged or progressive?

What is your peak TQ goal?
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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What compression?
12.75:1
How much HP on motor
>490rwhp on nitrous tune
What size shot?
250 to start with
Staged or progressive?
All progressive
What is your peak TQ goal?
probably 750-800
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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I myself would run 100 unleaded in the main tank...or atleast 50/50 mix of 100/93 and then run c16 or the NOS117 octane in the stand alone
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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116 in the independent. 101 in the tank
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Old May 12, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I agree with the last two posts as well.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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@ 12.75 they're giving you Great advice. The last thing you want is the fatal ping.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Watch the lead in the gas. I will run 100 in the stand alone and 93 in the tank from now on. After running a 93/100 leaded mix in the tank my o2 sensors were, apparently, unhappy. I'm not certain buut after a couple of tanks of 93 again, my 02 codes P0135 and P1133 if memory serves, have stopped. I only have 11.0:1 and my knock sensors are desensitized. So far detonation has not been a problem for me with the 93 tank...100 stand alone. BTW...i take it you can eat at your kitchen table again. LOL.

I'm running the purple Renegade? 100 octane fuel i think...frankly and honestly, i could be wrong about the distributor my source uses.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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93 in the tank 109 vp motorsport in the standalone 22* timing 11 to 11.5 afr my static comp is only 11.1 to 1 250 shot(.028/ .016 jets)
have seen no knock
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Old May 13, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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I used 93 in tank and 100 in standalone. My 346 was 12 to 1 spraying a 200 shot.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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On the street I use VP Motorsport 109 in the stand alone and crappy California 91 octane premium gas in the main tank at 22* total timing with only a 100HP shot. For the track I am going to use motorsport 109 in the stand alone and run a 50/50% mix in the main tank, 22* timing and 150 shot on a stock short block running 11 to 11.5 AFR.

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Old May 13, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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with the new ethonol fuel, go with 100-104 in the tank, and 117 nos in the stand alone.

i do either 110 in the tank, 117 in the stand alone, or 117/117 depending what i have in the garage.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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NOYZEE....i have a quesiton about the new ethanol fuel you are talking about...there is a gas station close to me that sells a fuel called E-85...its like 105 octance....is this fuel safe to run in our cars? I heard it eats are rubber seals and so forth...have i heard right???Hope you can help me out..Thanks
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MetallicTrans96
NOYZEE....i have a quesiton about the new ethanol fuel you are talking about...there is a gas station close to me that sells a fuel called E-85...its like 105 octance....is this fuel safe to run in our cars? I heard it eats are rubber seals and so forth...have i heard right???Hope you can help me out..Thanks
well, im not real sure about that, but what i do know about pumped race fuel, is the tanks weather in the ground or above the ground have to be vented wich means the fuel gets airrated which is not ideal for race aplication.
id be more prone to getting a 55 gal drumb of your own 104 unleaded, save a few bucks, and leave it capped up in a shed/garage.
i know the ethonol is eating up boat gas tanks made of fiberglass, so im sure its not great for rubber
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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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E-85 is 85% Ethanol and 15% Fossil and 100-105 Octane...check with you manufacturer on the effect of ethanol on your solenoids before you start burning it...
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Old May 15, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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I always run 116 leaded fuel in my dedicated. I have never seen a problem with the o2s.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
I always run 116 leaded fuel in my dedicated. I have never seen a problem with the o2s.
Dave
curious...maybe it's not the lead that is screwing with the 02 sensor?? hmmm??
but two or three tanks after the VP110 is gone so are my codes...curiouser and curiouser
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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I dont know for sure...but it seems to me 110 has a higher content of lead and kills o2s quicker that C16. I dont know if the 110 relies mostly on lead for its octane boost and maybe c16 has less lead and more aromatic fluids like Toluene or what. But I hate using 110. It also seems to have the biggest impact on the tune. Using 110 I have to pull out a ton of fuel to get the right AF mix over 93. C16 does not appear to be that bad.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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From my experience, using C16 mix in the main tank, with little pump, run it out at the track and nev er had an issue. However, got lazy a couple times (and put out during eliminations) with 110 in the main tank, the lower rpm driving sets the O2s into siesta time. So might be issues with either, any leaded, fuel if your not using it all at the track. In a dedicated system shouldn't be any issues.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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didnt you run propane before? if so did it not work out? ever think about running straight meth?
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