Need To Beat 01 Cobra W/kb!!
Originally Posted by BadAzz96Z28
The 01 cobra should be running mid/low 13's stock.....so with the addition of live axle, gears, dr's, kb(even though 1.7 still more efficient than stock 03/04 blower), and no telling what other skeletons he is hiding from you he should be low 12's/high 11's..... he is saying he will probally be on race gas which more than likely means more boost as well. I hate to disagree with people here but im gonna say the cobra is a faster car and should win....however that does not mean he can drive it
Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
The 01 cobra came sandard with a live axle, the 03/04 Cobras were the only ones with IRS, if I remember correctly.
Cobra's went to IRS in 99
Originally Posted by stangsteve
I dont see you beating the Cobra with bolt ons and a 150 shot. May wanna start saving for some real mods. Not that Im a fan of the sorry mod motors, but the 03 up cobras are quik, especialy with KB's etc.
Steve, I havent read the whole issue here, but if this is long haul run, the Cobra has an advantage, if this is for a shorter sprint, the Cobra should get its tail handed to it. I used to run some Cobra's at our track and some drivers I went against, I didnt even spray (one guy I always sprayed just to add to the humiliation factor
). There seriously wouldnt even be a discussion if you did your homework early. The first thing you should of done should of been gears/stall (tires) longtubes/slp lid then nitrous.
But since ur with nitrous, all you reall need to win is a very sticky set of tires. And i'd be willing to bet ur 150 shot is rated at the crank, bump that ship up to where u get 150 to the wheels and then your mouth will dropp.
But since ur with nitrous, all you reall need to win is a very sticky set of tires. And i'd be willing to bet ur 150 shot is rated at the crank, bump that ship up to where u get 150 to the wheels and then your mouth will dropp.
At this point probably the best thing you could do would be add a set of dr's. Your 2.122 is not very good. Think of it this way. At the time area you'll be running in, a .100 off on you 60' time equals about .200 on the full run. So, with just dr's you should easly be able to knock about .400 or so off your time. Regardless of what the Cobra runs, you have some dialing in and more tuning to pursue, to get the most out of what you have. Good luck though, this is the best part of our hobby, modding and getting our cars to go faster. 
Robert
Robert
I dont see anywhere where it says he's running him at a track or from a dig?
I ran down an 03 cobra and passed him with my mods and no juice. He tried to run from me at around 65. I reeled him in and passed him he gave up after I was a car or 2 lengths on him, we were doing 120+. I pulled him in and passed him in what should have been the best part of his powerband.
With a 150 shot and full n2o tank you might stand a real good shot on a roll with him as long as he doesnt have any tricks up his sleeve.
I ran down an 03 cobra and passed him with my mods and no juice. He tried to run from me at around 65. I reeled him in and passed him he gave up after I was a car or 2 lengths on him, we were doing 120+. I pulled him in and passed him in what should have been the best part of his powerband.
With a 150 shot and full n2o tank you might stand a real good shot on a roll with him as long as he doesnt have any tricks up his sleeve.
Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
I dont see anywhere where it says he's running him at a track or from a dig?
I ran down an 03 cobra and passed him with my mods and no juice. He tried to run from me at around 65. I reeled him in and passed him he gave up after I was a car or 2 lengths on him, we were doing 120+. I pulled him in and passed him in what should have been the best part of his powerband.
With a 150 shot and full n2o tank you might stand a real good shot on a roll with him as long as he doesnt have any tricks up his sleeve.
I ran down an 03 cobra and passed him with my mods and no juice. He tried to run from me at around 65. I reeled him in and passed him he gave up after I was a car or 2 lengths on him, we were doing 120+. I pulled him in and passed him in what should have been the best part of his powerband.
With a 150 shot and full n2o tank you might stand a real good shot on a roll with him as long as he doesnt have any tricks up his sleeve.
Robert
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Well, for me, running "frum a roll" means nothing, too many variables and could go either way. This is why they have drag strips, so you can have a fair comparison race.
Robert
Robert
As far as variables and a true reflection of power the 1/4 mile isnt the best comparision either. Lot of variables there as well. RT, 60' and traction play a big part in a drag race. My car is a lot faster than it shows at the track. I've run down and beat low 12 hi 11 second cars but my best at the track right now is 13.39 w/ 2.47 60'.I beat up that Cobra the other night but lost to a 5.0 w/KB at the track. I trapped at a higher speed than him but its et that matters.
There are a few ways to look at speed and racing. "Frum roll" means nothing to you but my car is a DD and it means a lot to me. I have more races off track than on. A "frum roll" is more real world than the track. Plenty of drag queens out there never make the streets. If I built my car for the track I might agree with you buit I built it for the streets and to be the meanest car on my block.
Now back to this guys dilema: Unless he has traction out of the hole he isnt going to beat the guy in the 1/4 mile. Thats why I said I think he could take him on a roll. Rolls happen a heck of a lot more than drags do and I only roll when the situation is right.
Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
True Robert but in my case its the only thing I can do with 2.47 60's As far as variables and a true reflection of power the 1/4 mile isnt the best comparision either. Lot of variables there as well. RT, 60' and traction play a big part in a drag race. My car is a lot faster than it shows at the track. I've run down and beat low 12 hi 11 second cars but my best at the track right now is 13.39 w/ 2.47 60'.
I beat up that Cobra the other night but lost to a 5.0 w/KB at the track. I trapped at a higher speed than him but its et that matters.
There are a few ways to look at speed and racing. "Frum roll" means nothing to you but my car is a DD and it means a lot to me. I have more races off track than on. A "frum roll" is more real world than the track. Plenty of drag queens out there never make the streets. If I built my car for the track I might agree with you buit I built it for the streets and to be the meanest car on my block.
Now back to this guys dilema: Unless he has traction out of the hole he isnt going to beat the guy in the 1/4 mile. Thats why I said I think he could take him on a roll. Rolls happen a heck of a lot more than drags do and I only roll when the situation is right.
As far as variables and a true reflection of power the 1/4 mile isnt the best comparision either. Lot of variables there as well. RT, 60' and traction play a big part in a drag race. My car is a lot faster than it shows at the track. I've run down and beat low 12 hi 11 second cars but my best at the track right now is 13.39 w/ 2.47 60'.I beat up that Cobra the other night but lost to a 5.0 w/KB at the track. I trapped at a higher speed than him but its et that matters.
There are a few ways to look at speed and racing. "Frum roll" means nothing to you but my car is a DD and it means a lot to me. I have more races off track than on. A "frum roll" is more real world than the track. Plenty of drag queens out there never make the streets. If I built my car for the track I might agree with you buit I built it for the streets and to be the meanest car on my block.
Now back to this guys dilema: Unless he has traction out of the hole he isnt going to beat the guy in the 1/4 mile. Thats why I said I think he could take him on a roll. Rolls happen a heck of a lot more than drags do and I only roll when the situation is right.
The frum the roll has it's place also, i guess, even though I try not to do it much anymore. Last time was against a black Lambo at 135mph on I-5 through down town Tacoma, not to smart, but hey you only live once. Oh, and the Lambo cleaned my clock, though I was driving my C5 coupe and not the Z06.
Robert
Oh I agree. Roll races are never done evenly. At the track you get an even start everytime. Theres just a lot more to drag racing than lining up. You really need to hone your skills to do well at the strip.
On a side note I rolled a bike the other day. Well I should say I ran from one. He was on my *** at 65 while I was passing a few cars. I saw him going to pass me on the inside at the first chance so I ran from him. I have no idea what kind of bike it was, all I could see was a green ferring with white stripes. He couldnt overtake me, to his surprise. Thats the fastest I've had my car in a while. Just about topped out 5th gear and was getting ready to hit 6th. We were at 135+ and coming up on traffic so that was the end of it. I'd love to have seen that Lambo. I only ever see Porsches and Vettes and they never want to run me.
Of course the lambo would have had me on the top end but I'd like to see if I can hang from 70-145. The car will pull in 6th gear but I'm not sure enough to keep up with a lambo or ferarri
On a side note I rolled a bike the other day. Well I should say I ran from one. He was on my *** at 65 while I was passing a few cars. I saw him going to pass me on the inside at the first chance so I ran from him. I have no idea what kind of bike it was, all I could see was a green ferring with white stripes. He couldnt overtake me, to his surprise. Thats the fastest I've had my car in a while. Just about topped out 5th gear and was getting ready to hit 6th. We were at 135+ and coming up on traffic so that was the end of it. I'd love to have seen that Lambo. I only ever see Porsches and Vettes and they never want to run me.
Of course the lambo would have had me on the top end but I'd like to see if I can hang from 70-145. The car will pull in 6th gear but I'm not sure enough to keep up with a lambo or ferarri
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To make more things interesting... this is what he has.
03 mach 1 motor in the cobra All aluminum everything, the only diff from
the 01 cobra to the 03 mach motor are the cams.. 01 motors rated at 320
hp, 03 mach rated at 305,
it is the 03&04 supercharged cobra motors that have iron blocks,,,,,,,cost
savings @ ford is the only reason.
The race is next sunday. I'll definitely post and keep you all updated. I'm going to try with my street tires, and see what happens. Yes it is a 1/4 mile run from a dig. If he beats me.... DR's will be bought that week without question. If I win.. I'll be able to hold off and payoff the $1500 on my credit card from the kit and install. I heard the NX stage one kit would put down 150RWHP with the 150 jets, I'm not sure since the programmer and set at a kind-of low ramp when the dyno was run.
I will definitely post the results, and get a video if I can find someone with a digital camcorder!
03 mach 1 motor in the cobra All aluminum everything, the only diff from
the 01 cobra to the 03 mach motor are the cams.. 01 motors rated at 320
hp, 03 mach rated at 305,
it is the 03&04 supercharged cobra motors that have iron blocks,,,,,,,cost
savings @ ford is the only reason.
The race is next sunday. I'll definitely post and keep you all updated. I'm going to try with my street tires, and see what happens. Yes it is a 1/4 mile run from a dig. If he beats me.... DR's will be bought that week without question. If I win.. I'll be able to hold off and payoff the $1500 on my credit card from the kit and install. I heard the NX stage one kit would put down 150RWHP with the 150 jets, I'm not sure since the programmer and set at a kind-of low ramp when the dyno was run.
I will definitely post the results, and get a video if I can find someone with a digital camcorder!
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I'm a BUM I hate when people post "what if, or what do I need" posts like this, then don't post the result...... today I was looking at my old posts and found this one with no end result...... I AM SORRY FOR BEING A BUM!!!
Well, I think it was a month later when we finally both could make it to the track...... no excuse for why I didn't post the result... but I must have forgot about the post.
We went to Thompson speedway and got one run against eachother. I don't have teh timeslip handy, it's at home, but I know I ran a 12.74 @??? and he ran a 12.71 @???
I'm not exactly sure of the times, but his time was like .03 better than mine........ but my RT was .2 better than his and after the run... which I got the white slip... he came up to me and said.... "well looks like you won"
I thought by our "rules" he won, but I guess our "rules" do go by RT.
(rules among our few friends that all run together)
He also did methanaol injection before we ran...... I thought I was toast, but fortunately... he can't drive!!! (I admit, his car is faster, the shop owner who does his work ran in the high 11's with the car)
We are going to run again soon this year, I don't think his driving has improved... so hopefully I can hold him off again.
He hasn't changed his car, I have only adjusted my FJO to 100% spray on the 150 shot from 3000 to 5850rpm, and gotten a bottle warmer. No DR's or stall or anything I really need yet.
I did have one great run last year which was 12.53@114.8, but my average run is around 12.7ish. I hope the bottle warmer (I ran mostly at 900psi last year, or whatever the sun would heat the bottle to!) will help, and I will try to launch a little harder, and cut my 60ft down some. I don't know how far I can go on street tires though.
Again, Sorry about being like a year late on the results... but hey......... better late than never right?!?
Well, I think it was a month later when we finally both could make it to the track...... no excuse for why I didn't post the result... but I must have forgot about the post.
We went to Thompson speedway and got one run against eachother. I don't have teh timeslip handy, it's at home, but I know I ran a 12.74 @??? and he ran a 12.71 @???
I'm not exactly sure of the times, but his time was like .03 better than mine........ but my RT was .2 better than his and after the run... which I got the white slip... he came up to me and said.... "well looks like you won"
I thought by our "rules" he won, but I guess our "rules" do go by RT.
(rules among our few friends that all run together)
He also did methanaol injection before we ran...... I thought I was toast, but fortunately... he can't drive!!! (I admit, his car is faster, the shop owner who does his work ran in the high 11's with the car)
We are going to run again soon this year, I don't think his driving has improved... so hopefully I can hold him off again.
He hasn't changed his car, I have only adjusted my FJO to 100% spray on the 150 shot from 3000 to 5850rpm, and gotten a bottle warmer. No DR's or stall or anything I really need yet.
I did have one great run last year which was 12.53@114.8, but my average run is around 12.7ish. I hope the bottle warmer (I ran mostly at 900psi last year, or whatever the sun would heat the bottle to!) will help, and I will try to launch a little harder, and cut my 60ft down some. I don't know how far I can go on street tires though.
Again, Sorry about being like a year late on the results... but hey......... better late than never right?!?
Originally Posted by Rick99HuggerZvert
I hate when people post "what if, or what do I need" posts like this, then don't post the result...... today I was looking at my old posts and found this one with no end result...... I AM SORRY FOR BEING A BUM!!!
Well, I think it was a month later when we finally both could make it to the track...... no excuse for why I didn't post the result... but I must have forgot about the post.
We went to Thompson speedway and got one run against eachother. I don't have teh timeslip handy, it's at home, but I know I ran a 12.74 @??? and he ran a 12.71 @???
I'm not exactly sure of the times, but his time was like .03 better than mine........ but my RT was .2 better than his and after the run... which I got the white slip... he came up to me and said.... "well looks like you won"
I thought by our "rules" he won, but I guess our "rules" do go by RT.
(rules among our few friends that all run together)
He also did methanaol injection before we ran...... I thought I was toast, but fortunately... he can't drive!!! (I admit, his car is faster, the shop owner who does his work ran in the high 11's with the car)
We are going to run again soon this year, I don't think his driving has improved... so hopefully I can hold him off again.
He hasn't changed his car, I have only adjusted my FJO to 100% spray on the 150 shot from 3000 to 5850rpm, and gotten a bottle warmer. No DR's or stall or anything I really need yet.
I did have one great run last year which was 12.53@114.8, but my average run is around 12.7ish. I hope the bottle warmer (I ran mostly at 900psi last year, or whatever the sun would heat the bottle to!) will help, and I will try to launch a little harder, and cut my 60ft down some. I don't know how far I can go on street tires though.
Again, Sorry about being like a year late on the results... but hey......... better late than never right?!?
Well, I think it was a month later when we finally both could make it to the track...... no excuse for why I didn't post the result... but I must have forgot about the post.
We went to Thompson speedway and got one run against eachother. I don't have teh timeslip handy, it's at home, but I know I ran a 12.74 @??? and he ran a 12.71 @???
I'm not exactly sure of the times, but his time was like .03 better than mine........ but my RT was .2 better than his and after the run... which I got the white slip... he came up to me and said.... "well looks like you won"
I thought by our "rules" he won, but I guess our "rules" do go by RT.
(rules among our few friends that all run together)
He also did methanaol injection before we ran...... I thought I was toast, but fortunately... he can't drive!!! (I admit, his car is faster, the shop owner who does his work ran in the high 11's with the car)
We are going to run again soon this year, I don't think his driving has improved... so hopefully I can hold him off again.
He hasn't changed his car, I have only adjusted my FJO to 100% spray on the 150 shot from 3000 to 5850rpm, and gotten a bottle warmer. No DR's or stall or anything I really need yet.
I did have one great run last year which was 12.53@114.8, but my average run is around 12.7ish. I hope the bottle warmer (I ran mostly at 900psi last year, or whatever the sun would heat the bottle to!) will help, and I will try to launch a little harder, and cut my 60ft down some. I don't know how far I can go on street tires though.
Again, Sorry about being like a year late on the results... but hey......... better late than never right?!?
I was hoping the results were going to be in this thread after reading stuff from 2006.
All I have different from you is headers, converter, and tires and I'm running 11.0s. Do yourself a favor and save up some money for a converter and some tires. You'll thank everyone later.
And then you can go play with the Twin Turbo Terminators like me
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[QUOTE=01_ram-air]Good kill.
I was hoping the results were going to be in this thread after reading stuff from 2006.
All I have different from you is headers, converter, and tires and I'm running 11.0s. Do yourself a favor and save up some money for a converter and some tires. You'll thank everyone later.
And then you can go play with the Twin Turbo Terminators like me
[QUOTE]
Thanks Everyone, nothing better than a stang kill!
I plan on the dr's and converter soon, but want to have enough reserved for a new rear on top of that because I have a feeling with a stall and tires/gears, the 10bolt will be geting replaced shortly!
I was hoping the results were going to be in this thread after reading stuff from 2006.
All I have different from you is headers, converter, and tires and I'm running 11.0s. Do yourself a favor and save up some money for a converter and some tires. You'll thank everyone later.
And then you can go play with the Twin Turbo Terminators like me
[QUOTE]
Thanks Everyone, nothing better than a stang kill!
I plan on the dr's and converter soon, but want to have enough reserved for a new rear on top of that because I have a feeling with a stall and tires/gears, the 10bolt will be geting replaced shortly!
[QUOTE=Rick99HuggerZvert][QUOTE=01_ram-air]Good kill.
I was hoping the results were going to be in this thread after reading stuff from 2006.
All I have different from you is headers, converter, and tires and I'm running 11.0s. Do yourself a favor and save up some money for a converter and some tires. You'll thank everyone later.
And then you can go play with the Twin Turbo Terminators like me
Thanks Everyone, nothing better than a stang kill!
I plan on the dr's and converter soon, but want to have enough reserved for a new rear on top of that because I have a feeling with a stall and tires/gears, the 10bolt will be geting replaced shortly! I've been going 1.4-1.5 60' for over a year and a half on my 10 bolt
I was hoping the results were going to be in this thread after reading stuff from 2006.
All I have different from you is headers, converter, and tires and I'm running 11.0s. Do yourself a favor and save up some money for a converter and some tires. You'll thank everyone later.
And then you can go play with the Twin Turbo Terminators like me
Thanks Everyone, nothing better than a stang kill!
I plan on the dr's and converter soon, but want to have enough reserved for a new rear on top of that because I have a feeling with a stall and tires/gears, the 10bolt will be geting replaced shortly!