Nitrous Knuckle Head needs help
08-09-2006, 11:46 PM
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me too. Evertime he opens his moutn we backtrack on some principal he is thinking of that is totally wrong. It would take months to get that one on track.
Im out
Im out
08-10-2006, 12:03 AM
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I could hang in for a couple more of his circles and stuff, but its too hard to read his typing.. all caps makes me figity, and then he ike frequency hops or something, part of one sentenance mixed with another and...**** it.
08-10-2006, 12:23 AM
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I went back for more, hehehehehe. I am starting to have some fun. 
I thought he just might come around, but nooooo... He is not done showing how big his ignoramace tumor is.
If some one hasn't seen/read this one, for a very large laugh, please partake.
Robert
I thought he just might come around, but nooooo... He is not done showing how big his ignoramace tumor is. If some one hasn't seen/read this one, for a very large laugh, please partake.
Robert
08-10-2006, 08:25 AM
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This is a prime example of those that cannot facinate with facts so they baffle with bullshit. People like that love throwing numbers out there without taking the ******* time to do any real world testing. Just another example of a "king of theoretical physics". Sometimes one finds that theory and applied physics are to completely different animals. I guess all of the folks here who claim to be using a dry system are really living in "la-la" land. 
In the imortal words of Mobb Deep - "This fools got it twisted".
Jim C.
In the imortal words of Mobb Deep - "This fools got it twisted".Jim C.
08-10-2006, 10:02 AM
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What a maroon! That fudge packer needs about 40K volts right at the temples.
That's about the best thread I've seen anywhere for someone letting the whole world know how truly ignorant he is.
That's about the best thread I've seen anywhere for someone letting the whole world know how truly ignorant he is.
08-11-2006, 02:51 AM
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Im reading this and he might have a point of the fact that the true density calculations used for fueling are flawed because of the higher amount of oxygen. However this isnt an issue because your usually spraying relatively little compared to the amount of oxygen your injesting and the density/fueling calculation are too estimated anyway to cause any kind of a problem. This all stems from the fact that air does not equal oxygen in fact only 20% is oxygen the rest is other gases however N20 is (i think) 33% oxygen and the other part is a nitrogen. However the significant drop in IAT's would make differences and force more fuel into the cylinder. The proportions im not sure about though, and they would take some datalogging for you to understand. Therefore it makes sense that a handheld tuner that leans you out and increses timing could cause a problem with dry n2o. but he really does sound like a tool otherwise
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08-11-2006, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Somebody09
I dont' feel like registering on the corvette forums,
but after reading what he posted, this thought came to mind...
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but after reading what he posted, this thought came to mind...
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4791/inhalenh9.png
i can just hear him going dee dee dee and hittin his chest with his right side of his palm
08-11-2006, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Spenser309
Im reading this and he might have a point of the fact that the true density calculations used for fueling are flawed because of the higher amount of oxygen. However this isnt an issue because your usually spraying relatively little compared to the amount of oxygen your injesting and the density/fueling calculation are too estimated anyway to cause any kind of a problem. This all stems from the fact that air does not equal oxygen in fact only 20% is oxygen the rest is other gases however N20 is (i think) 33% oxygen and the other part is a nitrogen. However the significant drop in IAT's would make differences and force more fuel into the cylinder. The proportions im not sure about though, and they would take some datalogging for you to understand. Therefore it makes sense that a handheld tuner that leans you out and increses timing could cause a problem with dry n2o. but he really does sound like a tool otherwise
Most that have done lots of dry kits on LS1s know that the true MAF calculations are flawed. Thats the best part. It just so happens all the factors in play add up luckily in our favor....richer . The end result is a theoretically flawed richer than normal mixture when spraying. If the mass was read correctly and the 02 content was no different than regular air....AF would remain at the 13.0 to 1 that was programmed. Now add that 02 is 33% more or whatever from n20...and if the mass was read the same...but higher 02 content per given amount of mass...we would go severely lean. But the opposite happens. We go MAGICALLY and thankfully rich!!
Woohoo.Some of that I belive is due to the dropped temps and some of it due to the "fog" of the nitrous tricking the MAF.
His arguement was that the MAF in no way shape or form could read any n20 passing through it. I bllieve he based it on the single Team ZR1 experiment. And the results they probably got may have been legit. Although probably due to poor nozzle placement. And instead of moving the nozzle to a better location so the MAF could read the n20. They gave up and proclaimed dry kits a hoax....unfortunately.
