I was wondering what would be the most i could spray on a plate system in a single shot with a l76 intake? My plans of right now is to do a direct port setup and a plate system and spray 200 out of the plate then 200 on top of that. I will be buying a plate system first so i was wondering what would be a max i can spray? The motor is going to be able to handle it so im hoping i can atleast spray a 300 shot just on the plate but not sure.

thanx

josh

 

ive seen a 300 hit through a plate trying to get it to hook is another story

 

Ok so what about a 400 shot, lol?? I didnt have to much of a problem on a 250 shot on my 347 but then again that was close to 700rwhp and on my 370 it will be a 300 shot on top of my goal 475rwhp on motor, so close to a 100rwhp more.

 

I want spray a 400, 200 through a direct port and 200 through a plate, i dont see why i cant be done if you have the fule and the motor is built right, ill have this on a 408

 

Our dual stage 90mm Plates can do 250/250. I don't know of anyone to do that size hit though. Maybe a 200/200? Now you are taking about the new L76 intake?
Robert

 

why not just use a single direct port with a "half now, half later" set up with a progressive controller. seems like it would be easier, and cheaper to setup...just seems like it would be just as easy, if not easier, and a good bit cheaper. and possibly safer.

i mean, with your setup it seems like its a track car. why not just spray a 400 DP setup thru a progressive controller. why a 2 stage? i guess thats my biggest question.

i want to spray a BIG shot, but i dont understand a 2 stage system. i understand a 2 stage helps off the line, and you can turn one or the other or both on/off; but so does a P.C. ...and the P.C. seems easier to do tuning with. not trying to start a pissing match or hijack...just offering a suggestion, and trying to figure out where some people that want/are running 2 stages are coming from...sorry,

-cam

 

some people do not want to beat the **** out of the noids with a PC.

 

Our plate kits have been tested to 400hp on each stage....800shot anyone?

 

Well the main reason for going multi stage instead of progressive is simple, noid wear and tear. Think about it this way, one progressive run can equal a whole season or two of multi stage runs. Progressive beats the hell out of the noids, and we have enough failures with fuel noids anywho. Now if your willing to stay on top of the noid issue and service said noids more often, then maybe progressive is for you. Check out all the big name pro drivers, they run multi stage, and for a reason.
Robert

 

Exactly

 

Robert what all would you do as far as fuel system to spray a 200-200 on your dual 90 plate system? I want to use a stand alone but not so sure i will need it, would you run one? Any other thoughts to as what else i will need let me know.

thanx guys

 

What's your target rwhp going to be?
Robert

 

Close to right at 900rwhp on spray and motor 475-500rwhp.

 

Wolfy, I have a maximizer and it is not controlable off the line with the big jets. I am going to put a plate on this winter for the first stage. As far as beating the **** out of the noids, since when did any of us care about beating the **** out of anything?? we are the car killing bad boys of the planet

 

Well that's some big hp. I would do a pump, a hot wire and return and reg at the rails to cover n/a and 1st stage, good to 700hp. Then a dedicated for the 2nd stage.
Robert

 

I have a 255 pump, were can i get a hot wire, regulator and return at? Im assuming use a stand alone for the 2nd stage? Also what injectors would you recomend or anyone else for my setup?

 

if you are going to run a dedicated..run both stages off of it.

THe Racetronix harness has the hot-wire kit...with the walbro 255 and the Racetronix harness it will support 650rwhp, our dedicated will support up to 1200hp in low pressure and 900hp in high pressure

That will have your fuel system covered for almost anything you can throw at it.

 

Well that sounds good is there a kit that doesnt include the pump but just the hot wire kit and harness and could you pm me a price.

 

FWIW, on the Racetronics site, they state that the pump and hot, and going to a return and reg at the rails is good for over 700hp. This has the added benifit of keeping pressure stable at high demand times. Running both kits off the dedicated is fine also, and we do carry a stand alone with moving nothing.

The hot wire kit is just basically a heavy gauge wire directly from the Alt to a relay and to the pump. It insures a good voltage and can help pump as much as 20/30% IIRC. Check with Matt at HSW, as he I think carries the hot wire kit if ya don't want to rig one up yourself.

Robert

 

The reason I stated 650whp is we have personally seen high stall automatic cars maxing out at 650.....(SIG C&P) rossler th400 with trans brake and 4200 nitrous verter....I understand some cars (manual) able to run higher HP on the 255's. We have also seen a T56, supercharged car make 750 on the Racetronix.

There is no need to push a system to its absolute limits if you do not have to. Just because a certain setup is good for one car does not mean it is good for all cars.

An added benefit of the dedicated is the fact you can run 93 octane in the main tank and race fuel in the dedicated. 1 gallon of 116 in this area is $7-9. I currently add 3-5 gallons to the main tank every time I race since I don't have a dedicated. With a 1 gallon dedicated $7-9 would last several trips to the track.

We try to be conservative in how we advise customers in their build