Progressive controller for big noids
Originally Posted by scapaldo
After doing some testing like 860 suggested. The fuel noid is opening at least a second after the N2O noid.
Robert
Originally Posted by scapaldo
Brand new noids. And its a DP setup, 2nd stage is a dual dry though 
Robert
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I upgraded my power wires and the delay is gone. The fuel noid activates as its supposed to when the controller isnt hooked up. Hooking up the progressive controller causes the fuel noid to open and stay open while the n2o noid pulses. Again with the n2o noid disconnected, the fuel noid pulses as it should.
If you order the 2 stage controller you can control the resevoir factor that 860 talks about by running the nitrous on one stage and the fuel on another. You start the fuel first and have it come on faster and run at a higher start percentage than the nitrous.
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Originally Posted by scapaldo
I upgraded my power wires and the delay is gone. The fuel noid activates as its supposed to when the controller isnt hooked up. Hooking up the progressive controller causes the fuel noid to open and stay open while the n2o noid pulses. Again with the n2o noid disconnected, the fuel noid pulses as it should.
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So you thnk the problem might be the length of the lead wires after they split to the noids? Ill definately give that a shot. They split and the N2O noid has about 10" before the noid and the fuel has about 20" before the noid.
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Originally Posted by NXRICKY
The pulsing is keeping energy in the wires keep the fuel noid open. IF both wires at the noids are equal length and sliced together at that point you problem should go away.
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Originally Posted by scapaldo
So you thnk the problem might be the length of the lead wires after they split to the noids? Ill definately give that a shot. They split and the N2O noid has about 10" before the noid and the fuel has about 20" before the noid.
Not opening at all makes a little more since. If the voltage drop on that wire, is high enough the fuel noids would not open seeing how there is not enough voltage to open it.
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Originally Posted by srsnow
I don't get it, are you suggesting that the wires are acting like a capacitor just because they are different lengths? The length of the wires shouldn't really have any effect on the operation of the solenoids. Can you elaborate?
Also once a coil in activated and deactivate it creates a back voltage flow. So the progressive is cycle on and off on and off. The noid will only close if the magnetic feild has collapse. If the off voltage time is not enough for the feild to collapse the noid will appear to remain opened. The nitrous noids collapse could give enough back voltage to keep the fuel noid open just long enough to have the ON power hit it again. All the time the magnetic field is trying to collapse but there is enough power that if appears to remain open. Just like a fuel injector in peak and hold. It takes a good amount of power to open, but very little to maintain open.
Hope I did not butcher that too bad.
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I disconnected the noid from the D-block and ran the outlet of the noid to a container, activated the fuel pump, and triggered the controller, the n2o noid clearly pulses while the fuel noids just opens and stays open. Without the n2o noid hooked up, the fuel noid pulses as it should.
The ground and power wires are now as perfect as I can get them, no less then 14g wire anywhere, bigger where necessary.
The ground and power wires are now as perfect as I can get them, no less then 14g wire anywhere, bigger where necessary.