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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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I heard great things about this forum and i have a question about nitrous. I was deciding to run a 100 shot on my 2001 mustang gt 5 speed, i only have a cold air intake and cat back. I heard good and bad things about wet and dry systems. i dont know if my injectors can handle a 100 shot dry. I only plan on running 125 max so do i even need a wet kit? I was also planning on do everything with dynotunenitrous.com. They seem pretty good and cheap.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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I've had good luck with the NOS 05116 on a 99 Cobra. Its pretty straight foward to install comes with jetting for 125-150. That would be my choice for a dry kit.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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honestly, I wouldnt ever do a dry kit, nothing against it but...I'd rather have that peace of mind knowing that when I spray, fuel is right along with it. Plus the cost difference is minimal and you can run a bigger shot down the road.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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the RFS fuel system of the 99+ mustangs does not like a wet shot.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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im running a 100 shot dry. But most new edge gt owners like the 4.6 nx plate kit...
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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this is a NEVER ENDING debate in alot of stang sites but this a stopping point in every discussion? EFI cars were never intended to run fuel thru them period! no matter what ANY manufacture tells you there WILL be fuel puddling! it has happened to every car thats why you get all the intake explosion's! the downfall with the dry kits is the fuel system but once you upgrade injector's and the fuel system you can get up to a confirmed 380rwhp which has been done by a NMRA real street racer! you can't get that high with any wet kit or plate out there! there was a challenge put out to a NX dealer,ZEX,nitrous works,and any other co. that wanted in on it to make anything over 300rwhp like some claim but NOT ONE took up the challenge! this challenge was issued by 2 NMRA real street racers in search for more power running nitrous but still to this day run custom dry kits! this of course with Mustangs so I'm not to clear with the LS1 camp?
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Having spent a lot of time with windsor (5.0,5.8) based mustangs I can tell you that the older cars are much easier to deal with wet systems. The plates that sandwich in between the upper and lower intakes eliminate the fuel flow problems and for the average user are worlds better than the old dry kits that are dictated by manifold vacuum. The newer cars respond better to dry, but most still prefer wet on the mustangs. The heads up race guys running those huge shots have spent a lot of time and money dialing those systems in. Most guys on this site or the corral will never see more than 200-250hp nitrous shots.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
this is a NEVER ENDING debate in alot of stang sites but this a stopping point in every discussion? EFI cars were never intended to run fuel thru them period! no matter what ANY manufacture tells you there WILL be fuel puddling! it has happened to every car thats why you get all the intake explosion's! the downfall with the dry kits is the fuel system but once you upgrade injector's and the fuel system you can get up to a confirmed 380rwhp which has been done by a NMRA real street racer! you can't get that high with any wet kit or plate out there! there was a challenge put out to a NX dealer,ZEX,nitrous works,and any other co. that wanted in on it to make anything over 300rwhp like some claim but NOT ONE took up the challenge! this challenge was issued by 2 NMRA real street racers in search for more power running nitrous but still to this day run custom dry kits! this of course with Mustangs so I'm not to clear with the LS1 camp?
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6techniques, you may want to read the wet vs dry thread, it may change your old school, and incorrect, thinking.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
A wise man, in the know.

6techniques, you may want to read the wet vs dry thread, it may change your old school, and incorrect, thinking.
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Incorrect? No, I just stated my opinion and that I had nothing against a dry shot...Also, I hooked up an 03 Cobra (not mine) with a "little" shot and it was in fact wet, never experienced any problems on the factory returnless system.
When someone wants me to install a N20 kit on their car and they havent decided on wether or not to go wet or dry, I let them know the pro's and con's of each and THEN I clearly state my OPINION and that it's not law.
I also inform them that we can get it to work either way and I have yet to have any one experience problems with my old school and incorrect way of thinking.
And Im not here to debate, but to clarify my standing on the subject.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
Incorrect? No, I just stated my opinion and that I had nothing against a dry shot...Also, I hooked up an 03 Cobra (not mine) with a "little" shot and it was in fact wet, never experienced any problems on the factory returnless system.
When someone wants me to install a N20 kit on their car and they havent decided on wether or not to go wet or dry, I let them know the pro's and con's of each and THEN I clearly state my OPINION and that it's not law.
I also inform them that we can get it to work either way and I have yet to have any one experience problems with my old school and incorrect way of thinking.
And Im not here to debate, but to clarify my standing on the subject.
Fair enough.

However your previous post stated:
honestly, I wouldnt ever do a dry kit, nothing against it but...I'd rather have that peace of mind knowing that when I spray, fuel is right along with it. Plus the cost difference is minimal and you can run a bigger shot down the road.
After stating you would not run a dry hit, you go on to imply that a dry hit can't support the fuel, but a wet hit can. Nonsense, if anything it's the other way around, and thus rec reading the wet vs dry as this thread puts these missconceptions to rest. Nothing personal, and I respect the fact that you have a right to post your opinions, just clarifing for those that may get the wrong idea. Also, a bigger shot safely goes to the dry.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
Fair enough.

However your previous post stated:

After stating you would not run a dry hit, you go on to imply that a dry hit can't support the fuel, but a wet hit can. Nonsense, if anything it's the other way around, and thus rec reading the wet vs dry as this thread puts these missconceptions to rest. Nothing personal, and I respect the fact that you have a right to post your opinions, just clarifing for those that may get the wrong idea. Also, a bigger shot safely goes to the dry.

Robert
I didnt take it personal at all and Im glad you pointed that out so there wont be any misconceptions for those who dont know...Plus youre the N20 pro, Ill just stick with what I know best, FI and EFI.

Now clear this up for me as I didnt quite get your meaning to the statement "...a bigger shot SAFELY goes to the dry." And this is not to question it but to get a clear understanding as to what you mean so I can be brought up to date on what you "new school" kids are doing, lol.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
I didnt take it personal at all and Im glad you pointed that out so there wont be any misconceptions for those who dont know...Plus youre the N20 pro, Ill just stick with what I know best, FI and EFI.

Now clear this up for me as I didnt quite get your meaning to the statement "...a bigger shot SAFELY goes to the dry." And this is not to question it but to get a clear understanding as to what you mean so I can be brought up to date on what you "new school" kids are doing, lol.
You stated the wet you could go bigger later. Well outside a direct port, going about a 200shot and bigger can lead to the intake backfire and explosion on a wet hit. I know many do it fine, but it can happen. whereas, this issue is basically nonexistent running dry hits, which can easily go to 300. Kids, huh, my 26 year old son thinks I am an old fart?
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewr164
I heard great things about this forum and i have a question about nitrous. I was deciding to run a 100 shot on my 2001 mustang gt 5 speed, i only have a cold air intake and cat back. I heard good and bad things about wet and dry systems. i dont know if my injectors can handle a 100 shot dry. I only plan on running 125 max so do i even need a wet kit? I was also planning on do everything with dynotunenitrous.com. They seem pretty good and cheap.

Thanks,
Andrew
Andrew,
Both wet or dry will work fine.
The wet systems are usely alittle easier to tune.

On a 2001 mustang NOS offer a dry system part number 05116. This system works by using a module that tricks the computer into adding the axtra fuel. We carry these but I have not installed one so I do not know alot about it.

Your other choices are running a single nozzle or plate wet system. NX offers a plate and Nitrous Outlet,NX NOS and ZEX all offer a single nozzle wet.

For the HP level you are looking to spray any of these systems should work fine.

The for 4.6 intake starts showing flow problems around the 175 to 200 mark on the wet systems. At this point I would suggest a directport.

I hope this helped. If you are interested in a single nozzle wet system check out group 4 in our February specials. We wil subsitute the GM kit for the ford kit.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/650496-february-tax-time-specials.html

If you want to go dry we carry the NOS dry systems as well.
Dave
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