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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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I'm buying a filling station off my buddy and would like to find some way to chill 10lb bottles before filling so that I can stuff the full amount in there. Is there a small cheap freezer available or what's my best option? Just wanting to hear people's ideas.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Thats what I plan on doing this summer, this should work http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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why dont u put it in ur reg freezer??
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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If your buying a station with a good pump, there is no reason to freeze the bottle. I've never had a problem filling bottles to there full weight, and that's with an NOS pump that's almost 10 years old. Just use your head, don't go and fill a bottle that comes it at like 1,200psi.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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andrew, how much to fill my 15lb'er and have it shipped back to me?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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One million dollars, and that's free refills for life.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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I'm looking at doing the same thing. I found a Chest Freezer at Lowes for $140. It's just tall enough for a 15lb bottle.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd157k
I'm looking at doing the same thing. I found a Chest Freezer at Lowes for $140. It's just tall enough for a 15lb bottle.
Get a fill station yet Todd? I got a NX one from Nitro Dave, all I need is a gas provider now...being home would probably speed that up

I might try to chill a bottle in the fridge in the garage...as long as the beer has plenty of room.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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i gravity fill mine. from a little T&T on my car vs. a local guy with a NX pump station (we get our gas from the same place). my car was about a 10th faster with my gravity filled bottles. i fill for most of the guys around here & have been told many times that mine "hit harder" and are a little faster.

i just stick them in the freezer unless there pretty empty. i've also found about 9.5lbs. in a 10lb. bottle is about optimal.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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honestly an ice bath is the most efficient way to get somethign cold. Ice water makes a bottle cold 10x faster than just ice, there is exponentially more surface area. I learned that after years of experimenting with beer. thats just my 2 cents.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by camaroextra
honestly an ice bath is the most efficient way to get somethign cold. Ice water makes a bottle cold 10x faster than just ice, there is exponentially more surface area. I learned that after years of experimenting with beer. thats just my 2 cents.
What you ment was "experimenting with water" right
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by camaroextra
honestly an ice bath is the most efficient way to get somethign cold. Ice water makes a bottle cold 10x faster than just ice, there is exponentially more surface area. I learned that after years of experimenting with beer. thats just my 2 cents.
I second that!!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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do not put your bottle in the frezer the pros say its bad it decreases your pressure zone for bottle pressure and you get a bad spray completely messing up your air fuel but its your choise
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by joe'sls1
do not put your bottle in the frezer the pros say its bad it decreases your pressure zone for bottle pressure and you get a bad spray completely messing up your air fuel but its your choise
This is true but hes talking about filling the bottles, not freezing them then using them. When a gas is cooled it condenses(atoms get closer together) and pressure drops. When its heated the atoms get further apart and pressure in the bottle increases, u want a warm bottle to spray.
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I also heard the bottle chilling trick is useless.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE2005
I also heard the bottle chilling trick is useless.

I have done the freeze and fill for years and I have always overfilled by 1#
On another note plus 1 for using icewater when filling using a pump
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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freezer or ice water, only way I fill.

Filled much better than ice only, I try to use the least about of pumping as possible.

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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To answer the question about using my freezer I have, it's not big enough and there's not room in it. I live in an apt with an 800 sq ft garage underneath so space is a little important, especially when I'm gonna have three mother bottles in here soon along with all my other crap. It's got an NX pump with the station so I might just try it that way first then see if I need to step up to the freezer. There's no doubt they fill faster and fuller cold, but it might just not be worth the hassle.
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If it is summer and the bottle is hot to the touch you will need to cool the bottle so it can be filled. No need in over working a pump and taken for every to fill a hot bottle. Another thing that can be done is if the bottle only has a couple of pounds in it, drain the bottle, this will chill the bottle internal very quickly. And the bottle is dead anyway.
Or just have an ice chest ready to go, simple cold tap water can drop temps very nicely.
DO not fill any bottle past its rating. By over filling you are taken away from the expansion area designed into these bottles. bottles that are over filled can and will rupture the burst disc easier.

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Originally Posted by Beer99C5
Get a fill station yet Todd? I got a NX one from Nitro Dave, all I need is a gas provider now...being home would probably speed that up

I might try to chill a bottle in the fridge in the garage...as long as the beer has plenty of room.

Beer
Try Airgas. They're nation wide. I'm going to go set up an account with them to get mother bottles. My local N2o supply wants $200 for a 56 lb bottle so I know they're paying less than that from airgas. I'm going to bail on the pump idea unless one comes along cheap. Seems that you can get better fills just freezing the bottle and filling it. The price of a chest freezer is far less than a pump.
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